Nice Guy Kevin Barrett Spins 9/11 Planes:
A Peer Review
by Morgan Reynolds
and Judy Wood
September 4, 2007
“Exposing falsehoods and revealing truths.”–Slogan of Scholars for 9/11 Truth
Kevin Barrett, founder of Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth, says he is a “free-speech fanatic,” yet oddly enough he emulates 911blogger.com which bans discussion of video-fakery (and all scientific discussions!). Barrett says he will address the no plane/video fakery issue once and only once, and will not “waste time with back-and-forths on this issue.” On other forums, that is called “hit-and-run.” Shouldn’t we look at the data, view the evidence, review it as needed? How can an educator close his mind or the door on a vital issue “once-and-for-all,” with no further discussion? What does that teach the young? It teaches: Do not think for yourself. And Kevin Barrett, of all people, has lectured in the past about the “dumbing down” of America but that is what he is promoting on “no planes” with his ONCE only approach.
MUJCA Article: No plane theory
Dr. Barrett might benefit from the famous Wisconsin admonition:
“Whatever may be the limitations which trammel inquiry elsewhere, we believe that the great state University of Wisconsin should ever encourage that continual and fearless sifting and winnowing by which alone the truth can be found.”
It says “continual and fearless sifting and winnowing,” not “once” and then avoid “back-and-forths” forever. Does Kevin reject the Wisconsin idea now because he feels the heat in the kitchen?
KB: “9/11 researchers have the right to be wrong.”
This is a strange idea to state here. Surely we all do “have the right to be wrong” but there is a big difference between being wrong innocently and being wrong on purpose. No one has the right to promote the official story, openly or covertly, and expect to be greeted with roses. Criticism of error is always justified but criticism of truth with the intent to deceive is another matter. And no discussion? Rubbish! Attacks on evidence in order to suppress the truth cannot be greeted with equanimity. While criticism and striving to collect more data and derive correct hypotheses is the normal way to correct “wrongs,” honest researchers cannot flourish if outnumbered by ops and trolls 100-to-1. All wrongs are not created equal. Many researchers, organizers and activists clearly have been planted in the conventional-controlled 9/11 truth movement to serve and protect “wrongs.” Their job is to stifle and suppress the spread of improvements in our understanding of 9/11. Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth:
“Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness Against Thy Neighbor” (Exodus 16). “So Then, Putting Away Falsehood, Let All of Us Speak the Truth to our Neighbors, for We Are All Members of One Another.” (Ephesians 4:25), “They Try to Deceive Allah and Those Who Believe, But They Only Deceive Themselves, and Realize it Not.” (Qur’aan 2:9)
“The Important Thing is, Not to Stop Questioning” — Albert Einstein
Figure 1 (source link)
KB: Since I am not a scientist, and do not have the time or the training to evaluate technical arguments about video images, I am applying common sense, along with evaluations of evidence that I am qualified to understand, to this issue.
Good. Use your common sense. Science is refined common sense. If you are not a scientist, so what? Think critically about 9/11 unless you are happy getting strip-searched at the airport and being told when you can use toothpaste to brush your teeth. Any citizen can understand the lack of plane evidence, like virtually no wreckage at each site, no collision between the plane image and the south tower, no serial numbered parts recovered to identify aircraft, thin aluminum panels cannot cut through steel columns, Boeings cannot disappear through undersized and impossible cartoon-shaped holes, and so on. All any citizen need do is apply common reasoning to the claim that airliners crashed as depicted on 9/11. Seeing it on TV is not proof because everyone has seen special effects on TV. Who believes that the corporate media and their news departments are all about the truth and nothing but the truth? The media were in on 9/11 from the git-go.
On August 5th, Dr. Barrett attended Reynolds’ presentation, “What Planes?” (Presentation here). He knows aluminum cannot disappear into steel/concrete towers virtually without a trace. There comes a time to face up to the truth rather than evade it.
Honest study of an issue like lack-of-plane-debris removes “agnosticism” but Barrett resists mightily. Isn’t this like the child who puts his head in a bucket and says, “lalalalalala, I can’t hear you, can’t hear you.” Is conviviality and agreeableness more important than the truth? Is the youngster with his head in the bucket being convivial? Does he value his many friends and colleagues on both sides of the issue? If he values them, truly, he would listen to their evidence and arguments. Dr. Barrett listened at the recent Madison conference.
Figure 2 Conviviality?
We all have a responsibility to speak the truth.
KB: …it is not inconceivable that the no-planers could turn out to be right.
An objective (not political) look at the data is not all that difficult. Why is Dr. Barrett wording things in such a biased, “crack-in-the-door” fashion? The effect is to keep people from questioning the facts about planes.
KB: Yet the [Pentagon] evidence strongly suggests that a plane substitution was arranged.
“Strongly suggests” is poorly chosen language, it is not proof, instead, it is manipulative opinion. Dr. Barrett apparently believes he has done enough homework on the Pentagon incident to take position, claiming a plane went into the Pentagon but not flight 77. What evidence can he offer for this proposition? Barrett may have a plane theory but he wants to avoid questions about his theory. A responsible approach would lay it out and show the evidence on its behalf to permit “fearless sifting and winnowing.” Otherwise, it is propaganda. Nearly all the reasoning and physical evidence that show it is impossible for a Boeing 757 to have put the hole in the Pentagon apply to any airplaneÑno plane made that hole.
KB: …unlikely to be caught on amateur video and happened too fast to be clearly remembered, was evident in the Pentagon attack.
Where is this from? Thousands of tourists would have been on the mall, Arlington National Cemetery and other tourist locations in the immediate vicinity taking family pictures and videos. A large plane comes right over the White House, just misses the Washington monument and nobody takes a picture or video of it, even accidentally? Give us a break! Yet we have no amateur videos or pictures of this extraordinary Pentagon event! What does this tell us about what happened that morning? Is Kevin playing stupid?
KB: …the case of the E-4B that was circling the White House around 9:30 a.m. on 9/11/01.
Where is the evidence for this event? Will Dr. Barrett believe anything the TV shows or what the Rense website tells him? Rense.com is well known as unreliable, it is even banned as a source on many 9/11 forums. The site has the testimony of two media shills, a video that looks fake and has no known photographer (it is amazing how potentially-high-dollar videos anonymously show up for free on the web).
Figure 3 (source link)
Figure 4 (source link)
And does that photo of a 747 shape by Linda L. Brookhart look real? It is suspect, with such a whiter-than-white underside of a four-engine jetliner, it looks photoshopped. And if Brookhart just left the old Executive Office Building, what is that office building in the photo? In any event, one data point is far too little to put any confidence in. Corroborating evidence and reasoning is needed. Can a person of Kevin’s maturity and experience really believe this unproven stuff while rejecting the evidence for no planes.
KB: Regarding the WTC no-planes and video-fakery controversies, I haven’t seen enough evidence to be sure, nor do I think it matters very much.
This is perhaps Dr. Barrett’s most egregious error. The U.S. government started a holy war based on Muslim hijackers on four commercial jets. Hundreds of thousands have been murdered as a result of the plane yarns spun on 9/11, and most victims have been Muslims. After 9/11, it was hard to have a middle eastern appearance and stay safe in America.
When will Kevin see enough evidence? He need only spend 15 minutes and go frame-by-frame with any South Tower penetration flick. Then reverse it frame-by-frame. The immaculate deception is in plane view. It shows an impossible event: a plane image gliding into a steel/concrete tower, not losing a flap, panel, actuator, wing tip, tail section–nothing. The media psy-oped America, Kevin. No deep academic thought is required.
Figure 5 (6/6/1997) (source link)
Figure 6 (6/06/1997) (source link)
Hollow aluminum planes cannot make plane-shaped holes in buildings, even if Road Runner can!
KB: We do know beyond a reasonable doubt that there were no suicide hijackings. The impossibility of claimed cell phone calls, the extreme improbability that guys with box-cutters could overwhelm military-trained pilots even once (much less four times),
To point to “extreme improbability” of “no suicide hijackings” is not proof. We can do lots better and must to convict the perpetrators in a criminal courtroom. The evidence and arguments for no plane crashes is powerful. There is no reason to fear the truth (unless you are a perp of course).
KB: …and above all the fact that buildings were rigged with explosives
How do you know this? On the authority of Dr. Steven Earl Jones? What is your evidence for internal explosives? Why do you ignore the powerful data for DEW? As your radio guest, trial attorney Jerry Leaphart put it,
“What I can tell you and the listeners, Kevin, is this. There is more admissible evidence associated with the theory that the World Trade Center was destroyed by directed energy weapons than there is admissible evidence for any single other theory out there that has been promulgated.”
Interview link here. Quote at 0:29:15-0:29:44
For an activist to disregard the strongest admissible evidence is troubling. We all want justice, right? Criminal convictions of the perps?
KB: …and HAD to be “hit” would dictate that no human kamikaze pilots were trusted to get the job done. DEMOLITIONS PROVES [sic] NO SUICIDE HIJACKINGS.
This is a non-sequitur. Although there were no hijackings, demolitions and suicide hijackings logically could both occur because the perps want to blame
1) the attacks on Muslim hijackers as a pretext for invading nations in the Middle East and Asia and other evil purposes
2) the WTC destruction on hijacked airplane crashes and subsequent fires rather than demolition by the military-industrial complex.
Indeed, that is exactly the psy-op the perps pulled off.
The reality of WTC demolitions does not prove that there were “NO SUICIDE HIJACKINGS.” Proof of no hijackings and demolition must be developed independently. One does not imply the other.
KB: This is way beyond obvious, and yet there are a few 9/11 truth activists who still refer to “hijackings,” thereby participating, however unwittingly, in the racist psy-op. (My introductory analysis of the psy op is at http://mujca.com/apocalypse.htm).
Barrett’s friend Steven Jones is one of the guilty parties, continually referring to the wholly-unproven hijacking stories peddled by government and major media. Why doesn’t Barrett straighten Jones out on the “racist psy-op”?
KB: … It was this “terror in the skies” emotional image that mesmerized the American people, linked the act to Arab-Muslims who have already been slandered as “suicidal terrorists” in the media, and provided a gripping narrative that overwhelmed “what we saw with our own eyes” – the obvious controlled demolition of the three buildings.
The destruction of the buildings was indeed highly controlled, but of course controlled does not necessarily mean conventional. There is sound insight into the psy-op here, as far Dr. Barrett goes. After the fall of the Soviet Union, the U.S. government, the military-industrial-intelligence complex, and the powers that be, especially financial, desperately needed a new enemy (and the associated money!), otherwise peace threatened to break out.
KB: … claiming that terrorist-placed bombs somehow created straight-down controlled demolitions was a non-starter.
True but this shows how key the airplane magic show was: people were psy-oped into believing that plane crashes and fires led to destruction of the towers. So the plane hoax was absolutely vital no matter how Dr. Barrett wiggles, waggles and evades this centerpiece of 9/11. Of course here is the other big factor he evades: the corporate media were complicit in selling the plane hoax.
Person writing to KB: And why why [sic] haven’t I seen any “amateur” video showing the south tower suddenly explode without any plane approaching? Or have they all been silenced?
KB: I cannot completely eliminate the possibility that the absence of such video could be explained by something other than the complete authenticity of the extant videos–see my first paragraphs above. Still, this is a good question.
We have something even better in the form of professional video from TV coverage the morning of 9/11 showing no plane before the south tower explodes, see Octopus 8 video. There is more where that came from.
KB: This question, along with the fact that it doesn’t really matter HOW the illusion of suicide hijackings was created, is why I don’t take the no-plane theories seriously enough to spend a lot of time on them. I don’t understand why such an ultimately unimportant issue has become so divisive, unless maybe the psy-oppers are stoking the conflict.
Wake up and smell the coffee, Kevin! Ultimately unimportant? Kevin is avoiding the issue again. Here is what is at issue: Why is the battle over the plane fraud so ferocious? Well-intended people who “don’t want to go there” argue that the WTC demolitions provide plenty of evidence to prove 9/11 was an inside job, especially combined with the government’s lies about the Pentagon incident. This is essentially trueÑthese facts have no other reasonable explanation but that insiders did itÑand they are sufficient to begin arresting and charging principals like Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld.
But governments like Bush-Cheney come and go. After Bush-Cheney leave office, nothing really changes because the Invisible Government is still in power. The conspiracy runs deep and no planes takes the analysis to a new level, right into the inner sanctum. The other side makes the familiar charges that no plane advocates are kooks, divisive and spew nonsense to discredit the sensible 9/11 skeptics. It is the same psy-op technique used to discredit DEW by calling it “ray beams from space.” Google that term and see who cooked it up. The media, goes the argument, can have a field day any time they wish by setting no plane proponents and opponents against each other, therefore no-crash advocates had best keep silent to preserve a united front and not confuse the public. But this admonition is superficial: “best evidence” is the right thing to do on its own and the American people are ready for the truth. The government-media-paymaster-9/11antitruther complex is not.
“The recent documentary on History Channel ‘9/11 Conspiracy Theories: Fact or Fiction?’ was a standard media hit piece on the truth movement,” writes Ace Baker. “The obvious strategy was to have a truther make a ‘conspiracy claim,’ then bring on the ‘expert’ to set us straight. Clearly the idea was to make the truth movement seem as weak and foolish as possible, Alex Jones, Steven Jones, the Loose Change Boys, Webster Tarpley, David Ray Griffin were all there” [and Kevin Barrett!].
“Conspicuously absent were Judy Wood, Morgan Reynolds and any mention of no planes or exotic weapons. If there really were planes, and ‘no plane theory’ is really so far out, then the producers would have presented it, and had their guys knock it down. The fact that they completely ignored it speaks volumes to me.”
Quotes above found here.
Here is the big picture: the blood libel that young Arabs hijacked specific flights and crashed them into U.S. landmarks fuels the war on terror, a.k.a. the world domination project. Preserving the plane fiction is the perpetrators’ Maginot line. Once we breach this fortification, a complete rout will swiftly follow. The public will find out that Katie Couric, Peter Jennings, Charles Gibson and the beloved leadership of corporate media were accessories to mass murder. Media are the enforcement arm, psy-ops, of the powers-that-be, the mind control engine, the propaganda matrix. Once their deception and treasonous collaboration come into bright sunlight for all to see, an unprecedented wave of anger will be unleashed against the killers, their media mouthpieces and their paymasters. The traitors will be “drowned” and America’s reinvention will begin. This explains the intensity of the no plane debate. For more, see
To pooh-pooh the no-planes issue is either flippant, irresponsible or op behavior. Repent Kevin or the world implodes! If Kevin repents, hugs and forgiveness await this nice man.
Figure 7 Airframes break up and wings fall off if an airliner encounters some steel supporting airport approach lights.(6/1/1999)
Figure 8 Wing markings to remind airline personnel to avoid stepping on sections of wings.
so why don’t we all agree that wtc7 is the Achilles heel? or is it?
“…like A&E for 9-11 Truth, which is desperately trying to show that 9-11 was a great deception; their faulty explanations of what really happened that day notwithstanding.”
It’s quite strange how the folks at AE911 truth are so reluctant to take into account the evidence presented by Dr. Judy Wood. It’s not about being wrong (we all make mistakes), it’s about not grasping new evidence and still getting along with a theory that just doesn’t add up.
As for the No Planes issue, if people (like Dr. Kevin) don’t take the time to fully understand what CANNOT happen (757s disappearing in 0.25s (443mph) and 0,2s (542mph) in the north and south towers respectively = NO resistance and violation of Newton’s 3rd law of motion, no crumpling, shattering, etc.), they can be easily fooled again in another psyop and as Dr. Morgan said in an interview : “Arguably the plane fraud is even more important than the technology they used to dustify the WTC…”
It isn’t strange when you consider that A&E is composed of scientists of sorts, who are hesitant to acknowledge anything that doesn’t conform to “scientific” principles as they understand it.
They also know that to embrace “unscientific” evidence would weaken their position and destroy their credibility.
“… this may be a function of “group-think”, which only fosters a closed-belief system, in my opinion.”
This is a very important observation, and in my opinion explains the curious behavior of many individuals and organizations that seemingly want to get to the bottom of 9-11, but don’t want to examine evidence that conflicts with tightly-held worldviews. These folks are not necessarily working for the other side and against the truth, and that includes A&E for 9-11 Truth, which has become the poster child and punching bag for many of those who understand Judy Wood’s work. According to some who venerate Dr. Wood, everyone who is not on board with her work, but who is ostensibly pushing 9-11 Truth, is a dis-informant – no exceptions for anyone who may be on a slower learning curve and isn’t up to speed; or who is afraid of being stigmatized socially or professionally by embracing evidence outside the “known” laws of physics; or whose mind is simply closed to new evidence that their brain can’t process.
It makes absolutely no sense that those who perpetrated 9-11 would encourage, promote, foster and fund an organization like A&E for 9-11 Truth, which is desperately trying to show that 9-11 was a great deception; their faulty explanations of what really happened that day notwithstanding.
Kevin’s reluctance here is curious, given his considerable intellectual gifts, and his promotion of so many important discussions relating to the 911 hoax.
I am speculating here, but this may be a function of “group-think”, which only fosters a closed-belief system, in my opinion.
I like Kevin, and I would urge him to review the research which clearly establishes a persuasive and reasonable line of inquiry pointing to media complicity in the Greatest Hoax of All Time = 911.
Once you understand the ACTIVE PARTICIPATION of corporate media (only a limited number of confederates is required to achieve the mission), you then have no trouble integrating video fakery into their dementedly clever schemata.
The planners of 911 certainly understood social psychology a great deal, and how to reinforce a notion with clever use of pre-arranged videographers, and a few insiders acting as “eyewitnesses” to get the cover story spinning.
Kevin, old boy, wake the hell up.