Dr. Judy Wood Destroys the 9/11 Plane Fraud


Morgan Reynolds

Our most brilliant 9/11 researcher, Dr. Judy Wood, works harder than anyone searching for 9/11 evidence and here is her latest gift, which obliterates the lies about plane crashes on 9/11.

Help yourself to comments below.  Let’s see how the prevaricators try to get out of this one!

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274 Responses to Dr. Judy Wood Destroys the 9/11 Plane Fraud

  1. MKULTRA says:


    Where you in Florida on the days of March 7, 2020 and March 8, 2020. Driving a car with New York plates. There was an attempt on my life by seven men, after I defeated them, a car came by with what looked exactly like you. The man who I believe was you swiveled his head all around smiling and carrying on. I believe you’re mentally ill and capable of doing this. Your behavior on this board for such a long time is not normal.

    Again, can you verify where you were on March 7 and 8, 2020.

    You verified who you were on this board when you wrote about your television program. From a review of the Youtube tape of the show, the person in the car matched.

    I was tipped off ahead of time, I was ran into Ponce Islet park, I escaped, when I came out, you came down the road swiveled your head around smiling and carrying on as if you had done something. No person has done this before, it was abnormal.

    It is real strange, someone who has spent this much time on this board calling people names about their opinion. It’s strange to invest time and money to make an attempt on someones life. It was you Pomeroo, I know it was. How far do you want to go with this?

    • pomeroo says:

      Great yarn, nutcase.

      Seek psychiatric attention.

      Oh, you say you’ve spent years in mental institutions?

    • pomeroo says:

      My first reply to your deranged fantasy was deleted.

      I will try again:

      You are quite insane.

      I have not visited Florida for years.

      When I FLY there, I don’t magically acquire a car with NY plates.

      I am a bit past the age where 1,300-mile road trips appeal to me.

      You are an anonymous internet troll. I have no idea who you are.

      You were not attacked by seven men.

      Seek psychiatric attention.

    • steve briskey says:

      Where are those Towers where did they go?
      Dr. Woods would like to know
      Tell us Assange so that we know
      They say your trial it is a show
      Now there’s a rare subliminal truth:

      • pomeroo says:

        On September 11, 2001, nineteen jihadist terrorists hijacked four commercial airliners and flew three of them into buildings. Two of those buildings were the twin towers of the World Trade Center.
        Each tower withstood the damage to perimeter and core columns resulting from the plane crashes, but eventually collapsed as result of the effects of the fires resulting from the crashes.

        The hopelessly brain-damaged Judy Wood concocted a mad fantasy in which imaginary beam weapons turned the structural steel of the towers into dust. In reality, ALL of the steel was found on the ground. It took nine months with a thousand men toiling on the rubble hills to remove all of it to Fresh Kills and other holding centers.

        • steve briskey says:

          pomeroo! …You ludicrous lying git…Have you got that shit on a loop?
          Here it is kids..
          In case you die not knowing..”WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?” By Dr. Judy Wood Ph.D.
          Find out the forensic facts..and extrapolate who and what this pomeroo pervert is.
          Coming up tomorrow Weik…More bullshit for you and yours..and shrouded in the contingency of global pandemics as well..
          You lifes’ mission is full of grace pomeroo …WHAT A DISGUSTING GRUB YOU ARE.

        • pomeroo says:

          Your psychiatrist must be disappointed at your lack of progress, sucker.

  2. pomeroo says:

    Remember, psychos, you can go berserk every time your meds wear off, but you can never come close to challenging the indisputable FACT that 250,000 TONS of steel was found on the ground and removed to Fresh Kills and other centers over a period of NINE MONTHS.

    Your deranged goddess cannot understand why a 1,300 ft.-tall building that is 95% air by volume produces a 65-70 ft.-tall rubble hill when it collapses.

    That idiot was allowed to teach PHYSICS!


    • steve briskey says:

      ROTFLMOA..??? NOW there’s a real indicator of pomeroos’ target demographic isn’t it? The textual dialect of the childish mind. The acronym dickheads…. Between its’ pitch to that dilettante generation.. And the persistent attempts to steer the eyes of the ignorant away from the extant video images of the buildings effervescing upwards and outwards in a cascading dissociation of their steel and concrete matter …pomeroos’ default defence (beside his gaslighting) is his FALSE and persistent rant that all the steel from the buildings was displaced vertically onto the footprint of the buildings. He can’t..and won’t, mention all the concrete of the buildings because that would have originally been of a greater volume that the steel exoskeleton.. and if all the concrete and all the original steel of the buildings had fallen vertically it would have been a visual pile even greater than pomeroos lies. His auto suggestion to the confused is basically this…Look at the wreckage on the ground..don’t use your intuition to see that it is only fools iron..and what ever you do..don’t keep going back to LOOK AT THE VIDEOS, of the buildings turning to disassociated dust in the air…A simple swerve pitched at the simple minded. pomeroo mate?….For varieties sake, tell your audience-( if you have any left)- how the alloy airframes entered undamaged, without decelerating; into the buildings.?..Your demographic will believe your explanations I’m sure.

      • pomeroo says:

        You remain a dull-witted fool. No one thinks that the planes did not decelerate on impact. Dr. Frank Greening calculated the deceleration in one of his papers. I have linked to the MIT paper on the crash physics, but you cannot read a word of it.

        The total amount of rubble and debris removed the WTC complex over a period of nine months was between 1.3 and 1.6 million tons. The structural steel accounted for roughly 250,000 tons. The figures are readily available.

        When your deranged goddess raves that her magic beam weapon transformed most of the steel to dust, reality crushes her.

        • steve briskey says:

          MIT is a fraud..You, pomeroo; are a fraud..The extant video images do not show the plane decelerating despite yours and MITs’ lies ..The majority of the matter of the towers was dustified..No one thinks you are capable of telling the truth..Once again, thank you Weick , or Wieck …or however Weak you are..Thank you for converting more inquirers to the facts of September 11 to the evidential realities of WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? Cheers dickhead! 🙂

          PS..If it’s not out of order WEAK, or even if it is out of order..Was Mother WEAK a baiter of men Weak? I mean that might be why you keep trying to project this “Goddess” spin onto others?…It might also be the reason you are a pervert, a porn peddler, a car thief and a kiddie fiddler? It’s worth a thought Weak…Perhaps pleading insanity, caused by a traumatic childhood could be a mitigating defence factor next time you get busted for car stealing Weak?

        • pomeroo says:

          OF COURSE all the real physicists and engineers are frauds, sucker! One of the most prestigious universities in the world is in cahoots with George W. Bush, despite the inconvenient fact that over 95% of the faculty voted for his opponent.

          You worship a deranged woman who peddle sheer nonsense because you are unintelligent and uneducated.

          The truth always crushes your lies.

        • steve briskey says:

          You’re blithering and babbeling now Weak pomeroo….get some medical treatment

        • pomeroo says:

          Your incoherent lies don’t work.

          No steel turned to dust.

          ALL the structural steel was found on the ground.

          There is no way to push your goddess’s fantasies past reality.

        • steve briskey says:

          I think the jury’s verdict is in Weak…this “godess ” shtick you keep projecting has condemned you as a big, queer, Nancy Boy, Big girls blouse. You are a sicko.

        • pomeroo says:

          It’s curious that all of you low-IQ psychos start raving about Jews and gays when your demented fantasies get destroyed.

        • steve briskey says:

          Another of WEAK pomeroos’ straw man distractions….Jews and gays are WEAK pomeroos’ deposition…SEE? ….My appellations to WEAK pomeroos’ character are a simple ride there for a ride back. Isn’t that right Mr. WEAK? Mr. low- IQ psycho,. Mr. Deranged moron, worshipper of a goddess? Tell your audience again how the alloy airframes entered the buildings undamaged Mr WEAK.?….It’s a real hoot you deranged moron, compromised shill hack worshipper of satan.

  3. the fake pomeroo says:

    pomeroo is a example of a brainwashed idiot. Keeps on going about how he is right, but does the mofo has a PHD in anything.
    Show us your linkedin page?

    • steve briskey says:

      “Cancer Of The Soul”…..aka pomeroo..doesn’t appreciate the usefulness of his lies, his browbeating and his gaslighting, to the ethos of this place. His basic tactics, aimed at a dilettante and epistemophobic audience is actually a catalyst for factual and revelatory responses to his lies. He can’t see how the audience he pitches to..are either further educated by those responses to his lies…..or they take their chronic ignorance and go away. 🙂 … If we see past his tactic of trying to divert his audience away from a factual education and toward personal conflicts and trading insults..we see his usefulness to more people being educated to the evidence of Dr. Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds et al…..Embrace the fool as that useful tool:

    • pomeroo says:

      Yes, the person who invokes reality is “brainwashed” while lunatics raving about magic energy beams are in possession of important truths.

      No steel melted. ALL the structural steel was found on the ground.


      • steve briskey says:

        GOOD BOY! 🙂

        • pomeroo says:

          Gee, I wonder who “brainwashed” me into seeing mountains of structural steel when I walked past Ground Zero for months.

          I’ll bet it was the same imaginary super-villain who tricked me into ignoring the hurricane that struck NYC on 9/11.

          What a crazy fool you are, sucker!

  4. Tim Jones says:

    I wish John Lear would publish a copy of the cover of the military publication (mil-spec), that he showed in one of his videos a while back discussing a stand-alone holographic projector that was likely being developed by the military in the ’80s if I remember the time frame correctly. I am familiar with the look of these military manuals as I used to work on them for battleship refurbishment related to the electronics involved. He also gives anecdotes from a researcher who saw a holographic image of large passenger type of plane appear, that was way too low and in an unlikely location, just suddenly disappear. Trolls like Pomeroo are trained to appeal to people’s emotions and to trigger the conspiracy type response. I hate to think that he’s getting paid out of our hard-earned tax dollars by agencies who have a vested interest to confuse the public.

  5. pomeroo says:

    There was no black plane Nobody thinks there was a black plane. No black plane is shown on any videos. No black plane was seen at any of the crash sites.

    Fight for your sanity.

    • MKULTRA says:

      Dr. Wood is not saying the plane is painted black. You are! Dr. Wood is pointing out the holographic image is not reflecting light.

      I made a mistake the other day when I wrote the data in Chris Hampton’s video could tear this nation a part. A large percentage do not believe the government’s version of 9/11. They know something is wrong, bad wrong.

      The nation is torn apart.

      Dr. Wood and Chris Hampton are only telling us what really happened. No one can admit the truth, because it would finish off the country.

  6. MKULTRA says:

    If you call yourself an American, one must watch Chris Hampton’s 9/11 Alchemy. It’s on this web site and on YouTube.

    Thank God for Chris Hampton. Thank God I watched the 9/11 Alchemy. He has hit every base, nothing was left out, he explained who the people were behind the curtain.

    There was no thermite, no explosives, and no mini-nuke, only a space and ground based energy weapon which was designed for defense against Soviet ICBM. It was used on us. The US government murdered our own people.

    This is the most egregious crime in US history. It’s horrible.

    Again, the people who did this were Americans who murdered our own people and many are still dying from the rarest cancers caused by an energy weapon, both space and ground based, which alters the molecular structure by causing the atomic bonds to separate.

    Space based holographic technology was used to simulate the aircraft. There were no aircraft crashing into the WTC. ( I suspect the recent Navy release of the UFO video was a holographic image and the preparation for the final phase which Chris so succinctly explains – one must see the video to understand. He explains every question we so desperately seek. )

    Chris is a GREAT AMERICAN. He is outstanding.

    Not only has Dr. Wood’s research been proven but the disinformation game has been proven. Dr. Wood led the way, she was attacked by a coordinated disinformation operation. Chris unravels the disinformation operation.

    We will not get justice through this system, the murderers who did this will kill anyone who challenges them. However, lets look at it another way, if this video played on MSM, the people of this country would tear the nation apart and those who did this evil. This is no longer treason, it’s the most extraordinary evil we have ever faced.

    So many knew the 9/11 story didn’t add up, but Chris has the key to unlock the door.

    Dr. Wood and Chris have opened a door which can not be shut. Thank God I now have the answers.

    • pomeroo says:

      No such weapon exists, nor was anything comparable projected for the so-called Star Wars program. Anti-missile weapons work by heating the guidance systems of their targets. Judy’s comic book beam weapon has no conceivable energy source, as shown by several theoretical physicists.

      Your nonsensical fantasy that steel turned to dust is destroyed by the indisputable presence on the ground of ALL the steel.

      • MKULTRA says:

        It’s Chris Hampton 9/11 Alchemy “Facing Reality”. I will be spreading this like wild fire. Boot leg copies, URL emails etc. All over the web.

        This has the potential to destroy this country and you. It has to be done, it was mass murder on a scale that boggles the mind. The nation is ready.

        Essentially, you’ve helped them murder our own people. You have no value. You’re low on the totem pole of life, a low life who is unimportant in this war. The reality is you prove every time you post the fear you have – it’s because you’re one of the chosen ones. Remember the Fireman you had on in 2008 and his book. He was a chosen one too. When I finish sending copies to every fire department in NYC, I’ll bet NYC will be singing a new tune.

        Chris Hampton has handed me the weapon to win.

        • stephen briskey says:

          An inspirational and noble move MKULTRA but, don’t go the early crow with this grub pomeroo/Wieck. Be aware of the fact that NYC and indeed all firemen and EMR personnel have a hierarchy, a paymaster and are ultimately subordinate. Many of them now have participated in false-flags and psyops themselves; subsequent to 9/11..School shootings,Concert shootings and bombings, Mosque shootings, Pedestrian run downs et al. My nephew is a professional Metropolitan Fireman and he is aware of the realities of 9/11 and false flags in general. You might be better served broadcasting 9/11 Alchemy in places where the uninitiated can think they have stumbled upon it…Remember, tenure is a strong censure:

        • pomeroo says:

          No, you don’t know any members of the FDNY.

        • stephen briskey says:

          Well DUUH!… pomeroo…I didn’t say I knew any members of the NYFD…did I? Now you prove you know any.? By any evidence, other than your own perpetual, uncorroborated lies??.
          Plenty of government employees know the truth of 9/11…Thanks to places like this one here and.. complementing these truths are the risible, bizarre confirmation you give to the truth of these places with your absurd lies. The pragmatic “nobility” of a big number of those employees were busted for filing false compensation claims pertinent to 911 were’t they? Perhaps a little repentance and expression of the truth by those men and they might have fared a little better in respect and memory of their murdered colleagues..No hope for you though pomeroo/Wieck…. You have to lie till judgement day. Please keep it up.

        • pomeroo says:

          You worship a severely brain-damaged woman who peddles sheer nonsense. Her signature claim is that an imaginary beam weapon magically transformed structural steel into dust. Reality destroys the mad claim, given that ALL the structural steel was found on the ground. You beclown yourself daily inventing wilder and wilder lies to support an indefensible fantasy.

        • stephen briskey says:

          You’re a broken record, a broken man, and your broken lies are a laughable reinforcement of the truths of Woods and Reynolds….please don’t stop lying.

        • pomeroo says:

          A mentally ill person braying about the “lies” of a sane person does not affect reality.

          The brain-damaged woman you worship peddles a mad fantasy about an imaginary beam weapon magically turning steel into dust.

          No steel turned to dust and the fantasy weapon does not exist.

          Nothing you can fabricate can change those FACTS.

        • pomeroo says:

          Try to bear in mind that you are a mentally ill person who clings to mad fantasies. Absolutely nothing supports the idiocy you peddle. You have placed yourself outside reality and no amount of hard evidence can shake your faith in a brain-damaged who gets everything wrong.

  7. MKULTRA says:

    Pinocchio’s Nose

    I found it.

    Dr. Wood said the black plane should have reflected light. If one reviews the video of the black plane, then one has to ask what kind of angle is the black plane flying and why doesn’t it reflect sun light?

    It’s CGI.

    The nosecone can be seen coming out the other side. And the angle of attack is not correct.

    Can Mr. Pomeroo please comment on why the nosecone can be seen coming out the other side, the black plane reflects no light on a sunny day, and the strange angle of attack which wouldn’t have done what Mr. Pomeroo says. In other words, Dr.Wood is correct about the black plane too.

    Please feel free to review the nosecone coming out the other side, it was like a hot knife through butter. It’s impossible.

    What we saw was a made for TV movie.

    And remember the flash before the CGI plane hits, that was the explosives to make an imprint of the plane. Too many reported the flash and didn’t know why. Please tell us Mr. Pomeroo how can the nose come out the other side?

    It was the first video handed out to news services, when it was discovered, it was corrected. That’s why the only video left are only a few sites on YouTube.

    This is the one I wrote about for many years, it’s the helicopter video in which a black screen tried to cover up the failed CGI. Again, the CGI has been redone so there is no nose coming out the other side. But we have a video with the nose coming out the other side, but all MSM have the upgraded CGI which shows no nose coming out the other side.

    This is called Pinocchio’s Nose

    below is a comment left under this video –

    Lmao!!! How do people buy this crap!!! The nose comes out of the back of the tower still in perfect form, And then they cut to a black screen a little to late. And missed hiding the screw up. America is falling and it’s the people who believe the official stories fault. Blind little sheep’s!!!

    We need a new 9/11 investigation and why are people like Mr. Pomeroo against a new 9/11 investigation?

    • pomeroo says:

      “Pinocchio’s Nose” is a term invented by a mentally ill worshiper of Judy, a studio musician who calls himself Ace Baker. I hosted on ‘Hardfire’ a debate between Ace and a video compositing professional suggested to me by Baker himself, Steven Wright. You have no genuine interest in the subject, or you would have watched the video of the debate before beclowning yourself.

      The nose cones did not make it through the towers.

      • MKULTRA says:

        You have a New York accent with a lisp indicating you’re a homosexual which means you’re inbred thinking in inverted logic – the opposite of human logic. You’re not the Ronald Wieck of Iowa.

        You’ve insulted me over and over and will not have a reasonable debate. Essentially you’ve helped murder our own people on 9/11. They deserve the truth.

        Anyone who continues to call people liars, people who are working to find the truth, has something wrong with them. Again, you think in inverted logic because you’re a homosexual – anyone can see.

        You have no value.

  8. MKULTRA says:

    Where are the over two hundred 4 inch steel reinforced concrete floors? We should be able to see a stack of floors, perhaps not from the top floors but surely floors closer to ground level. There are no concrete floors in the rubble piles. We should see concrete floors with steel coming out the ends. There are none. The floors disintegrated right in front of eyes before the floors hit the ground.

    Where are chucks of concrete floors, at least thirty foot and forty foot long chunks which most certainly would have survived the crash to the ground. There are none. Where is the pile of concrete?

    The government says it was caused by the floors pan caking, well where is the pan cake on the ground? Shouldn’t we see a stack of floors or a stack of concrete slabs perhaps a third of a floor? There are none.

    The amount of explosives to do that would be massive and it wouldn’t have turned the floors to dust. So the case for “dustification” is a viable proof of what has happened.

    We have many groups and individuals with their own theory fighting others with theories.

    We have chemical analysis evidence of explosives. Were explosives used to blow holes in the building? Yes. Was thermite used? The chemical analysis proves thermite was used.

    The other angle is the mini nuke in the basement. The eye witness testimony from workers in the basement indicates a massive explosion came from a lower basement level before the planes hit. We must considering the symptoms of many people around this area who are dying from rare cancer which to me indicates exposure to radiation. The short time it took these people to develop rare cancer is an indication something worse than asbestos was the cause. Asbestos is usually a respiratory cancer – lung cancer. We are seeing the most rarest of cancers.

    The other angle could be the rare cancers were caused by the energy weapon. Any which way, the number of dead from 9/11 is still climbing.

    It was over kill.

    I believe all four were used, thermite, explosives, mini-nuke and an energy weapon. Something caused the molecular structure, the atomic bonds to separate, the 4 inch steel reinforced concrete floors disintegrated turning to dust before the floors hit the ground. We can all see it.

    Where are over two hundred 4 inch steel reinforced concrete floors? Or the remnants? There are none.

    • pomeroo says:

      Your ;lies are failimg badly.

      The floor trusses were compacted in the collapses, as I have shown in the photos I have linked to. We can assume that the floors make up part of the roughly 1.5 MILLION TONS of rubble and debrtis, including 250,000 TONS of structural steel, that was hauled away to Fresh Kills and other holding centers over a period of nine months.

      Your imaginary nuke kleft behind no–ZERO–ionizing radiation.

      There were no explosions in the basements. The poor soul described by the fraud Slippery Willie Rodriguez as having his skin hanging off was a BURN victim–obviously–not a blast victim.

      Lunatics who rave about imaginary explosives in the basements of the towers never stop to wonder why an explosion in the basement would cause collapses from the IMPACT FLOORS an hour later.

      Do I understand that want to combine Judy’s imaginary Dustifyin’ Death of Doom with equally imaginary “mini-nukes”???


      • MKULTRA says:

        “Liar” charge vs the truth – 9/11 defied the laws of physics

        I wrote for many years Building 7 was the smoking gun. New evidence from a University of Alaska study proves the government rigged the study of Building 7 by not including the device which held the beams in place. When the University of Alaska report came out, a fire department in NYC demanded a criminal investigation.

        This is new. It was two months back, maybe you can explain to them they’re wrong because they’re “liars”. Soon this will snow ball because the firemen who were worried about losing their pensions have retired and those who remain want pay back.

        Your dependence on MSM proves you’re not willing to review data other than what is fed to you. Haven’t you heard? MSM has a problem with the truth.

        Building 7 dropped at the speed of gravity in 7 seconds. Gravity, resistance, motion, mass, – are terms which you’re having a difficult time understanding because of the political screen programmed into your mind.

        There was a sufficient debris field for Building 7, but not the WTC debris field. Building 7 has the classic controlled demolition rubble pile.

        Why can’t we have a new investigation since we now know NIST rigged the computer model?

        Can we sue the government because of the NIST fraudulent report?

        So you approve of the fraudulent NIST report used by the 9/11 commission?

        Shouldn’t the 9/11 commission report be rewritten with the proven fact the government lied?

        How can you continue to call us “liars”, when there is proof your evidence has been proven false. How does that work in your head?

        Since now we realize there has been a cover up, a proven cover up, how can you make the assertion there was no radiation at ground zero? Where do you get your data? MSM? Do you believe MSM tells the truth?

        Since we now have empirical scientific research proving the NIST report is a lie, how can you discount Dr. Wood’s research? Is the answer – you were educated by the MSM? Where did you earn your degree? MSM?

        There is a much larger percentage of the America people who are demanding a new investigation because they don’t believe the governments version of 9/11.

        I can say, I didn’t think a Physicist was a big deal when I was a young man working at the lab. I had to run experiment after experiment. It was hard work because I had never used my brain like that before. I’m proud of the battery of Physicists who taught me because on the day of 9/11 – live, I said to myself when the WTC crashed it was supposed slide to the left or right side (asymmetrical) not crash at the speed of gravity – straight down. Well I’m proud because every Physicist in this nation said the same thing. It means I know the truth.

        Somewhere at this famous research university is a saying seek the truth and ye shall find it, or something like that – all I’m doing is seeking the truth and you keep calling me a “liar”. Could it be, you’re lying to yourself and must lie to others to keep the lie going?

        • stephen briskey says:

          The pomeroo, (Ronald Wieck ) penny, will drop soon enough MKULTRA but, excuse me if for the sake of expediency I pull the plaster of the wound quickly, and tell you with absolute certainty….That pomeroo is not operating out of ignorance, misunderstanding or lack of intuition…pomeroo/Wieck..is a deliberate lying shill for the PNAC gang…. Wolferwitz et al, are the first class shits that gives Wieck that eponymous grin. Treat the grub in kind. Relaying facts and truths to it is the trigger for his deliberate shilling….be lucky.

        • pomeroo says:

          I am not a neocon and do not buy into their program to have America embroiled in pointless wars in the Middle East. On September 11, 2001, America was attacked by the nineteen jihadists who hijacked four planes and flew three of them into buildings.

          No lies you can invent will ever affect that reality in the slightest.

        • pomeroo says:

          Silly fraud, Dick (“Send Me Money”) Gage’s stooges and crackpots have produced absolutely no new evidence. The idiots will not be publishing in any technical journal. WTC 7 collapsed after unfought fires burned for seven hours. Your inability to read NIST’s report on the collapse of that building does not excuse your embrace of evil.

        • stephen briskey says:

          Pomeroo/Weick, in that deposition there..tries to send an audience that still hasn’t grasped the amazing revelations in Dr Judy Woods book, “WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO” ; down the FALSE TRAILS and IGNORANCE OF THE REFUTATION by deposing, “I am not a neocon”..AND, a classic example of his ignoratio elenchi stock in trade, by his implications that Dr Judy Woods’ adherants, are Richard Gage and Architects and Engineers Group et al believers…A rat cunning little shite in’e’?

        • pomeroo says:

          One of Judy’s moronic zombies alluded to a bogus paper cranked out by Gage’s stooges. Your stupidity prevented you from noticing.

          You have not solved the intractable problem of the 250,000 TONS of steel found on the ground.

          Reality destroys your goddess’s deranged fantasy, as you know.

        • stephen briskey says:

          I Noticed that contributors reference to Gage and I noticed your grasping at it as one of your slimy swerves you sleezebag…Now that person knows the A&E Gang are gatekeepers and limited hangouts…But more important than that…your exposure as a lying scumbag is reinforced. As for your continued reference to 250,000 tons of debris as some proof of vertical collapse and dismissal of the reality of dustification..that “intractable problem” has been well solved. The visible photographic evidence shows you are a pathological liar…please keep it up. The real “intractable problem” for you at least, is that if you are not an asset of the perpetrators of that murderous deed to some degree..and you actually believe the risible shit you depose..then it only leave the option that you are a certifiable moron?. My money is on the option that you are an amoral arsehole

        • MKULTRA says:

          Poor Pomeroo, he’s brainwashed by MSM.

          I saw a video which is no longer available. People with a much greater grasp of reality than you saw it and remember. The video showed the nosecone of the airliner coming out the other side. That was impossible and those who saw it knew this was a false flag.

          That was a smoking gun and that’s why it’s no longer available. Again, many people remember the video, supposedly a live video showing the nosecone coming out the other side. Again, the nosecone was intact, no damage, and so many professional people knew it was a lie.

          Another thing, there is no way the wings of the airliner can make the imprint of an airliner. That’s absolutely impossible. The wings are made of light weight aluminum. Yes, there could have been a hole, not a big hole and it wouldn’t have flown into the building. The engines would have been ripped off, falling to the ground. 4 engines were not recovered at ground zero. The engines can’t be destroyed, there would have been an easily discernible outline of engines found at ground zero . An engine was found, one engine, not at ground zero. One engine, where are the other three? And before you foam, the FAA stores crashed plane parts.

          Even the tail of the airliner is included in the imprint on the building. You mean to tell me, the tail wasn’t torn off, it was stronger than steel beams, it would have been shredded, but not in the made for TV movie we saw.

          And the other impact was a massive hole in the building, it doesn’t work that way. There is no way an airliner can make such a large hole in the building. The hole was so large more than one airliner could have gone through the hole.

          The holes in the building were blown open by explosives. The nosecone coming out the other side was CGI.

          Remember the video with red hot molten metal flowing down the side of the building? What melted the metal to do that?  jet fuel? Something much hotter than jet fuel caused metal to be at the state of red hot molten metal flowing down the side of the WTC. But for someone like you, what do you do? Ignore facts to fit your political agenda.

          Passport found on the ground? That’s a smoking gun too. They made too many mistakes. I wouldn’t trust the FBI to tell the truth on anything. What we see today is a corrupt FBI.

          Is the FBI capable of participating in a false flag? Most Americans who watch TV, view a constant stream of crime dramas with perfect police and FBI, I can promise you, the FBI and police are not like that. Most Americans are totally brainwashed, but what’s interesting since the 9/11 show, the TV has lost and is losing a greater percentage of viewers.

          Only a small percentage believes MSM and as I said before, a large percentage is now demanding a new 9/11 investigation.

          Why are we in the Middle East?

          Not one war in my life time had anything to do with the national security of this nation.

  9. MKULTRA says:

    The US government spent trillions to develop this weapon. It was an off books budget similar to the new US Air Force bomber program. The Air Force can not release budget data because an adversary would be able to make an intelligent assessment of the weapon. Thus, the missing trillions from the pentagon rumor was real. The trillions were not stolen, it was used to develop this weapon. It was similar to the Manhattan program to develop the atomic bomb.

    This weapon is a space based weapon designed during the Reagan Star Wars ICBM defense shield program. The completion and technological break through of this weapon system didn’t come until much later.

    It was treason to use this weapon because it’s a top secret weapon which has now been countered by Russia. KGB officer Putin said he would show us who did 9/11. He did. The Russians developed a new weapon which will make the Star Wars defense shield obsolete.

    The new Russian robot submarine with a 30 megaton thermonuclear payload can destroy the entire east coast of the US. It’s designed to counter the Star Wars ICBM defense shield which was demonstrated on 9/11. In other words, now the Russians know.

    • Thomas Potter says:

      I have read WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? by Dr. Judy Wood and no where in the book does she speculate that the WTC complex was turned to dust by a space based weapon because there is no evidence to support that claim. Directed resonance causing molecules in a solid material to disassociate and disintegrate into particles smaller than red blood cells could have been Earth based too. In Chapter 17 The Tesla-Hutchison Effect, Dr. Wood discusses the effects of using radio frequency and electrostatic generators to obtain effects in a volume of space where fields intersect and interfere. (e.g. only buildings with a WTC prefix)

      The Tesla/Trump connection
      The scientist’s name undoubtedly rings a bell, as John G. Trump was the uncle of the 45th U.S. president, Donald J. Trump. The younger brother of Trump’s father, Fred, he helped design X-ray machines that greatly helped cancer patients and worked on radar research for the Allies during World War II. Donald Trump himself cited his uncle’s credentials often during his presidential campaign. “My uncle used to tell me about nuclear before nuclear was nuclear,” he once told an interviewer. (On July 16, 1945, a team of scientists and engineers watched the first successful atomic bomb explosion at the Trinity test site in Alamogordo, New Mexico. Donald Trump was born on June 14, 1946, so how could his uncle tell Trump about nuclear before nuclear was nuclear? LOL)

      • pomeroo says:

        Why do you people persist in willful self-delusion? Now you want to resurrect the fantasy about “missing” money at the Pentagon.

        No money was missing. Twoof liars fabricated this nonsense because Rumsfeld complained about antiquated data storage systems that made it difficult to transact transactions over the years. He stated that plainly in his speech of September 10 (I suggest you take the trouble to READ it). The entire DOD budget for 2001 was roughly $290 BILLION. It is impossible to lose eight times as much as you start with.

        The money Rumsfeld referred to had been all SPENT.

        • MKULTRA says:

          Mr. Pomeroo, are you saying you trust the DOD to explain monetary losses? The DOD can not track, audit, and control spending. The DOD refuses and will not comply with reforms to track, audit, and control spending. The Military Industrial Complex is controlled by former generals who have no respect for congress, the president or the courts. They’re brainwashed and do what they want to do. None of these wars have anything to do with the national security of the US.

          It’s another mafia racket and we pay through the nose individually and as a nation. Look at this nations infrastructure. The water is poison, 14% of the people can’t read, and less than 12% can read above an 8th grade level. The medical system is ranked in two global surveys in the 30’s, and the latest ranking of the eleven most advanced countries- the US was ranked number eleven but number one most expensive(another racket).

          The entire government has hidden DOD functions, from the DOE to the National Science Foundation. When we review the federal budget, these civilian functions are a guise for DOD function. So the real DOD budget is much higher than we are told.

          Now lets review the black budget. In the past most all black budget was CIA controlled, an example is the SR-71 Black Bird, recon aircraft. The SR-71 was a CIA spy plane. Other black budget is recon SV (satellite vehicle) which is not CIA but uses the same method of off books black budget.

          The CIA accounting system can keep the black budget secret. However, the DOD accounting system is a fraudulent system used to hide fraud. Why? Because in an authoritarian system like the DOD, an officer in charge can’t fail, can’t be wrong. It would end his or her career – the MIC takes advantage of this culture to rob this nation. We do not get max productivity from the DOD or the government for that matter.

          A black budget for a DOD program is easy because the DOD is incapable of accounting. Off books black budget are common today, much more common than the past. A good example is the new Air Force bomber B-21. Remember Senator McCain railing – the Air Force wouldn’t reveal how much was being spent. It is high likely the entire program will be more than a trillion.

          Max productivity? The new $13 billion aircraft carriers will cost much more than $13 billion because it doesn’t work and will require expensive modifications.

          I can go on. But your main agenda is your hate, 9/11 gave you moral justification for more wars for Israel. The kind of mind you have would not allow any evidence other than your hate.

      • MKULTRA says:

        Mr. Potter, I did not say Ms. Wood who I have a great deal of respect said a spaced based weapon was used. I’ve tried to explain, I’ve worked at one of the most advanced physics laboratory complexes in the world.

        I know what was placed in geosynchronous orbit. I know it’s capabilities and parameters. What I wrote can be used against me in a federal court, a closed hearing which would send me away for the rest of my life. I am CIA.

  10. Anonymous says:

    An EMT van with dust on its windshield cannot possibly support a deranged fantasy about an imaginary beam magically transforming steel to dust.

    ALL the steel was found on the ground.

    Your lies get zanier, but they can’t move past that boulder in the road.

    • MKULTRA says:

      Lets review the CGI video we were shown by NYC controlled media. CGI means Computer Generated Imagery. The black airliner image as Ms. Wood proves is a smoking gun. Light should be reflected from the image but it is not. Another example of the use of CGI was the video of the airliner going through the building with the nose intact, coming out the other side of the building. That’s impossible.

      Today on Youtube, that particular video can not be found. Remember the airliner went completely through the building with the nose of the aircraft coming out the other side?

      I have worked in one of the most advanced physics laboratory complexes in the world. GPS for pin point ICBM strikes was developed by my team. HAARP was developed by one of the Physicist at the laboratory.

      I was in the Air Force. I worked on the flight line. I can promise you, any and all nose cones are light weight material and the nose cone is hollow with radar behind it. It’s implausible to believe the nose cone acted like a hardened spear, but that’s what the government is forcing the public to believe.

      • pomeroo says:

        What a farrago of deranged lies you peddle! No nose cones emerged intact. They were destroyed inside the towers. The ejecta seen exiting the building on the side opposite the crash assumed a projectile shape because the laws of physics insist. The plane wreckage that made it through the building and ended up on the street consisted of heavier engine parts and a small part of fuselage that landed on a nearby roof.

        Tens of thousands of people WATCHED UA 175 hit the south tower. They watched from their offices and apartments all over Manhattan. They watched from the cars as they crossed East River brides. They watched from rooftops in Brooklyn Heights, from as far away as New Jersey, and from the streets surrounding the WTC complex.

        The mad fantasy that the planes ATCs tracked from takeoff to crash did not exist is quite absurd.

        • stephen briskey says:

          Nice admission there pomeroo..And the, “laws of physics insist..” bit?.. pure gold. Your admission (couched in ineffective denials) that the nose cone of the aircraft did not penetrate and exit the buildings is factually correct; in that the absolutes of physics wont let an alloy air frame penetrate and exit a construct such as the WTC Towers. And lost in you sins of omission is the fact your futile swerves don’t want another truth exposed.. That the entry/exit piece of evidence was a glitch in the construct of the broadcast CGI images. The reason that imagery still exists and hasn’t been removed by our good friends of youtube and google et al..may have some purpose in that oft repeated notion that the planners of such murderous deeds of dominion, like to leave a clue or two, in some bizarre belief that if the public can see their evil acts.. and don’t act to expose or remedy such acts, then the public is somehow at fault for continually allowing it. No convictions on those charges for yourself though ‘eh Ronald Weick? …Your culpability is the the pissants category of crimes pomeroo…. A sin so pathetic it should be treated as a chronic disease??

        • MKULTRA says:

          I reviewed all data about 9/11 like most who question their reality. I saw one video showing the plane’s nose come out the other side. Since you’ve foamed at the mouth, I have contacted a friend to ask him did he remember that video because I use to rave, rant, and rail about it. He said he remembered. It can no longer be found on youtube.

          There were too many smoking guns, like the passport found on the ground.

          The energy needed to do what we saw was much greater than two planes hitting the towers.

    • steve briskey says:

      I’m LOOKING at them now….And who says “rubble didn’t exist”?” You are not only constructing fake statements..But also the photos you present only go to show the small percentage of the buildings that was left by the DEW perps. to reinforce their lie. And now your lie..You have disproved your own proposition.

      • pomeroo says:

        The mentally ill woman you low-IQ fools worship pretends that her magic beam turned most of the twin towers’ structural steel into dust.

        In fact, NONE of the steel turned to dust. ALL the steel lay on the ground and was hauled away over a period of nine months.

        No lie you can invent affect reality in the slightest.

        • steve briskey says:

          Totally correct Mr. WEAK- pomeroo..And the lies are all yours…please keep depositing them here so more people can see your lies and help find the truth because of them.

        • pomeroo says:

          Speaking of lies. how will yours trick any of the hundreds of thousands of people who walked past Ground Zero during the nine-month cleanup?

          ALL the steel lay on the ground. Neither your deranged goddess nor any of her low-IQ throne-sniffers can get past reality.

          Your mental illness does not rise to the level of argument.

        • steve briskey says:

          It must be worrying to have whatever Sword of Damocles they have positioned over your head Weak? …Not that you don’t deserve it and earn it with every lying deposition

        • pomeroo says:

          When you go off your neds and felled compelled to bray miondlessly, keep a few things in miond:

          Your deranged goddess’s claim that steel turned to dust is refuted by reality. ALL the structural steel was found on the ground.

          Her fantasy about Hurricane Erin is refuted by the actual track of the storm. It followed the same path as many Atlantic storms and never came within 475 miles of NYC.

          Her comic book contains much l nonsensical “evidence.” She shows a truck driving along West Street with the Hudson River flowing alongside. By 2001, West Street was separated from the river by 200 feet of landfill.

          She pretends that her magic beam weapon set on fire cars moving along the FDR drive. One of the photos she uses to support her lunacy shows a burned car on the FDR Drive, but an earlier photo shows the same car at the WTC complex. You see, cars were towed from Ground Zero to the FDR Drive.

          You are in the grip of a delusion.

        • steve briskey says:

          The evidence, by a qualified Ph.D in her field of expertise, has carefully shown the evidence of what really happened on 9/11/2001 “WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?”…..The evidence by an expert troll and a shill in its field of expertise, has laid down a trail of depositions of false, misleading and self contradicting lies that helps qualify the former as being the reality. The WEAK shill pomeroo, when put to elenchus on the facts of 9/11….distracts, lies, creates straw men and deposes insult and derogation in an attempt to sway a dilettante audience that if they believe the facts in “WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?” that somehow they are also as deluded as those he falsely deludes.

        • pomeroo says:

          Your mental illness renders you impervious to facts. The deranged woman you worship has ZERO evidence for her fantasies.

          Her claim that most of the structural steel in the twin towers was magically transformed to dust is refuted by the presence of ALL the steel on the ground after the building collapses.

          Lie as you might, you can never get past reality.

        • steve briskey says:

          You’ve got that shit on a loop Mr. Weak….A sure sign of grasping failure.. I don’t know how you go with sign and semiotic Mr. Weak.. but I was listening to the gallops today and SACRED GODESS beat SHILLOTIN by four lengths…..true story.

        • pomeroo says:

          I get the impression that you don’t have a clue about your goddess’s ravings. I assume that you never bought her comic book.

          When a lunatic raves that most of the structural steel in the twin towers was magically turned into dust by an imaginary beam weapon, it is a problem that ALL the steel was found on the ground.


        • steve briskey says:

          I’ve read Dr. Woods Book. One of the originals. Cover was glued on up side down. I comprehend her excellent analysis. And thank her kindly for her skill and courage. You have read it..you comprehend it.. BUT! ….You; are an amoral lying shill, who thinks they can convince a dilettante audience with your browbeating, gaslighting, ROFL blah! blah! acronym argots to adolescents… And pictures of the RELATIVE MINOR DEBRIS FIELD left after the majority of the towers were turned to dust and drifted away on the breeze.
          That is your oeuvre Mr Weak..your magnum opus… YOUR LEGACY to the moving hand. The pictures, the videos, the real and extant evidence, verses your lies and whatever is your affliction. Your risible depositions operate outside all the rules of evidence and even in a bush court you would have hung yourself a thousand times…. How does it feel, to be CONDEMNED FOREVER to be pitching those lies and tactics to a fool audience?? Mother Weak must be very proud of you?….Or is she also a credulous moron… like the only audience you are condemned to quest after?

        • pomeroo says:

          Your deranged goddess’s minor debris field covered fourteen acres and consisted of roughly 1.5 MILLION tons of rubble and debris. A thousand men working on the hills required NINE MONTHS to remove all of it to Fresh Kills and other holding centers.

          Her photo of a truck moving along West Street with the Hudson River flowing alongside was taken back in the 1970s before 200 feet of landfill separated the street from the river.

          Her ravings about Hurricane Erin ignore the FACT that the storm never came within 475 miles of the city and did not affect the weather here.

        • steve briskey says:

          You’re loosing it Mr. Weak..”go off your neds”? ..”felled compelled” ? “bray moindlessly , keep a few things in moind”? Bloody hell WEAK!… an alliteration and a NY four by two argot in the one ranting deposition????…..Are you going to be taken to the looney bin ranting your blather to the men in the white lab coats and the big butterfly nets Mr. Weak? …..Be careful, they’re au fait with the evidence in “WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?” book..by Dr. Judy Wood Ph. D.

        • pomeroo says:

          Ever wonder why your lies can’t trick anybody, sucker?

        • steve briskey says:

          I’m always in wonder why THEY, used some one as pathetic as you to be their B-Grade shill? Someone with nothing convincing at all..and an absurd leitmotif of; “ALL the steel was on the ground ” ..when the video evidence clearly shows the majority of the towers being turned to dust in the air and only a cursory amount was left for shills and dills to lie about. Are only people who cant believe their eyes you target?…you know, morons..is that why your handlers picked a hack like you to pitch to the blind?

  11. stephen briskey says:

    Seeing as how you swerved, and couldn’t explain without blatant lies pomeroo; how the ER Van that was in a proximity to the towers, were it should have been covered in your “mountains of steel”..yet was only covered in a film of dust…Perhaps you have a defense of lies prepared for how the “mountains of steel” didn’t fall onto and kill the people in STAIRWELL B??? The men whos’ testimony is still extant..that they though they were going to die (when the climax dustification was in progress). Yet they looked up to see the blue sky above them and not a vertical collapse of the mega structure at all? If you can’t explain without your customary lies and ignoratio elenchi pomeroo..perhaps you can tell the folks at home what the current pay scale is for an internet shill of your speed?

    • Anonymous says:

      Your stupidity and blind faith in an insane woman prevents you from learning anything. The Miracle of Stairwell B has been written about in many news stores and magazine pieces, but you have no interest in facts. An excellent account can be fund here:


      • stephen briskey says:

        A fluff piece by “NEW YORK” spin sheet pomeroo? You’re extracting the urine aren’t you pomeroo?…The lies started in the header. ” The Miracle Survivors”..the dross that follows is a dear mom and dad, wave the flag bunch of lies that itself didn’t explain why the building didn’t fall on that numpties head (if he in fact even exists) or survivors, plural… You are a BS overload pomeroo..That deposition condemned itself and Yourself..but shills get dispensation for self incrimination don’t they pomeroo? Although edited to avoid examination and explanation of HOW, they could have actually survived in Stairway B.. during a vertical collapse (sic)..The video bits of Fireman Mickey Ross on youtube are insightful if anyone not intimidated by the didactic. browbeating peanut pomeroo. ;-p

        • Anonymous says:

          Your lies about Stairwell B were exposed and destroyed, fraud.

          At the end of the day, it will ALWAYS be true that workers toiling on the hills took none months to remove roughly 1.5 MILLION TONS of rubble and debris, including ALL the structural steel.

          Your mad goddess cannot move her fantasies past that incontrovertible fact.

      • steve briskey says:

        Why try and fool yourself that you are Anonymous pomerroo?

    • Anonymous says:

      There were–obviously–no vehicles on the TOPS of the rubble hills. There were construction vehicles and ambulances throughout the debris field. Your madness and stupidity prevents you from LOOKING at photos of Ground Zero.

      A brain-damaged woman’s mad fantasy cannot affect reality. The 1.5 MILLION TONS of rubble and debris took a thousand men working on the Pile nine months to remove. NOTHING can change the FACT that ALL the steel lay on the ground.

      • stephen briskey says:

        That’s correct…there were no vehicles ON TOP of the “mountains of rubbish…where they would have to be following pomeroos (your) logic and depositions. The van in question was in a proximity to the buildings where it would have to be either crushed and under mountains of rubble..or, ON TOP of mountains of rubble????… See how your tangled web unwinds pomeroo?. Nothing can change the facts of the video evidence and the evidence of Dr. Woods…The truth is the evidence pomeroo…and your depositions are all to hide it. Hope you can explain your motivations to your doppelganger when your time is nigh pomeroo.

  12. pomeroo says:

    A delusional moron talks about logically refuting reality. He is destined to crash into the brick wall of reality repeatedly without ever making a dent.

    A brain-damaged woman screeches that steel was magically transformed to dust, but the steel was ON THE GROUND.

    Do you SEE the steel, idiots???????


    • stephen briskey says:

      Yes pomeroo we DO see the steel…and despite your febrile attempts at browbeating and verbal projection..we DO see the steel and its nowhere near enough. “This is your problem”. WE DO SEE THE STEEL. And of the total steel, concrete and other contents of the WTC structures …there is NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH to corroborate your rantings…You are dustifing your own case by using the VISIBLE LACK of demolition detritus, in a futile attempt to browbeat the inductive reader into believing there is ENOUGH rubble to validate your case…..its not working. Best you go to the deed poll office and change your name to peanutaroo….you ludicrous guber :

      • pomeroo says:

        The brain-damaged woman you idiots worship stated that her imaginary beam weapon magically transformed MOST of the structural steel of the towers to dust.

        In reality, NONE of the structural steel turned to dust.

        As sane people keep explaining to you fools, a building that is 95% air BY VOLUME compresses to roughly 5% of its original height when it falls. Thus, the 60-70 ft. tall rubble hills accord exactly with 1,300-ft. tall structures that have been compressed. You clueless dunces miss this simple point over and over.

        When you bray mindlessly that the amount of steel that lay on the ground for months was “not enough” you reveal your intractable ignorance. The 250,000 TONS of steel that was removed over a period of NINE months represents ALL the structural steel. There was NO structural steel unaccounted for.

        Your deranged goddess made a huge blunder when she stupidly decided that the rubble hills were too small. Her absurd error led her into a cascading series of errors from which she never emerged.

        • stephen briskey says:

          You’re lying pomeroo….LYING

        • pomeroo says:

          Perhaps you want to pretend that I am “lying” about the amount of steel recovered and removed to Fresh Kills and other holding centers. Instead of burying your tiny head in the sand, why not do some research into the nine-month cleanup effort at the WTC complex?


        • stephen briskey says:

          “Nine month cleanup pomeroo”? BIG DEAL!…The WTC prefix buildings were a write off. Of course the removal of the planned, inside job clean up would have taken a long time..The problem with your BS is that the video evidence of molecular disassociation of the two main WTC buildings is alive and free..it shows clearly an early, slow cooking of the buildings interior after the BS plane impacts and their attendant planted explosions..culminating in an upward and outward, effervescing material disassociation of the very matter of those buildings..Those videos are extant for everybody to view and decide for themselves if those towers One and Two are collapsing and falling or being destroyed the videos clearly show. People will view those videos of the dustification on that day pomeroo and then view you in a new light..You need an audience of the intimidated don;t you pomeroo. You are a terrorist pomeroo. And you still haven’t disclosed the wages of shillery?

        • Thomas Potter says:

          We can see many example of Twin Towers dustification in the photo shots on September 11. One of the most compelling is the ambulance parked on ground level in front of WTC1. You would expect a pile of rubble to bury it.

          The “rubble pile” from WTC1 is essentially non-existent. The ambulance is parked at ground level in front of WTC1. WTC6, which had been an eight-story building, towers over the remains of WTC1.

          In contrast, other than some dust on top of it, and a door slightly askew, it appears to be undamaged. At maybe 8 feet high, the intact ambulance is actually higher than a lot of the rubble found around it. We can even see the ground, through the rubble, next to the ambulance.

          There is not a piece of glass or marble, not a desk, a sink, toilet or a doorknob. We don’t find a chair, a telephone or a computer. Furthermore, the biggest piece of office furniture recovered from Ground Zero is a tiny fragment of a telephone keypad.

          The only “office supply” of significance we see are sheets of paper, expanses of sheets of paper.

          The core columns were the last part of WTC1 to remain standing so if they collapsed (for whatever reason) they should be lying on top of the debris.

          We know each of the Twin Towers’ cores contained 47 box columns. Each columns was made out of steel several inches thick.

          47 core columns x 1300 ft (height of tower) = 61,100 ft or 11 miles of thick steel box columns in total.

          The tall column near the middle of the picture (leaning slightly over to the left) is a single core box column situated where ‘the spire’ stood.

          Can you see the rest of the 11 miles of core columns piled up anywhere?

          And where is the rest of the building? ….. where are the hundreds of outer steel columns?

          Each of the towers’ outer walls was made up of 60 steel box columns.

          (60 outer columns x 4 walls = 240 outer columns x 1300 ft (height of towers) = 312,000 ft or 60 miles)

          So there should be 60 miles of outer steel box columns piled up, in addition to the 11 miles of core columns. Where are they Mr. Ronald Wieck?

        • Anonymous says:

          For the last time, the ambulance was NOT parked in the middle of the WTC complex BEFORE the towers collapsed. It could not have been. The collapses generated TEN THOUSAND TONS OF DUST, overwhelming consisting of pulverized concrete, gypsum wallboard, and glass, but no steel.

          The debris field covered fifteen acres. The highest rubble hills were on the former sites of the twin towers where the twisted steel and compressed rubble reached heights of almost seventy feet.

          There was nothing “missing.” This simple concept eludes the mad woman you idiots worship.

        • stephen briskey says:

          An excellent photo of the van Tommy and a damning exposure of pomeroos’ lying deposition of how the van was driven into its position AFTER the destruction but, I BEG YOU!..no more pictures of pomerooss’ purulent boat race please mate…. It was breakfast time here when I saw the cadaverous visage of our Ronny;-p

        • Anonymous says:

          Have any of you cretins figured out what an ambulance would be doing inside the WTC complex before the towers collapsed????????????

          Are you pretending that the ambulance drove up while the towers were burning? Let’s pretend that it happened just like that. What prevented the ambulance from being crushed and buried by the avalanche of rubble and debris?

        • Anonymous says:

          LOOK at the photos. You see cars parked at a curb covered in dust. You see an ambulance with dust on its windshield but otherwise UNDAMAGED. The ambulance was NOT crushed by a falling building. It was NOT in the path of a falling building. It is NOT standing on TOP of a rubble hill. It would be IMPOSSIBLE for the ambulance to be on the TOP of a rubble hill.

          ALL the structural steel of the twin towers was ON THE GROUND after the buildings collapsed. There was no steel in the dust samples.


        • stephen briiskey says:

          You left a deposition that clearly states that the van was driven and parked after the demolition..with your emphasis on “AFTER”…So why..and importantly HOW? …was the van driven and parked there in that rubble field? You deconstruct your own lies with every new deposition of lies you leave. keep it up…you are losing demographic at an astounding rate.

        • Anonymous says:

          There was no demolition. The towers collapsed when the fires on the impact floors weakened the floor trusses until they gave way, as shown in many photos of the inward bowing perimeter columns. The van inside the debris field was not crushed. It has dust on it. The dust consists of pulverized concrete, gypsum wallboard, and glass.

        • stephen briskey says:

          You have said that the van was driven into its position AFTER the towers were destroyed. Its here in the depositions?…Its real evidence of your lies. If you believe, or want a jury to believe that testimony….then explain how the van was driven through the debris field? You can not.. so you prevaricate and use ignoratio elenchi as the cowards defense. Tell us how..and why, the van was driven to its position AFTER the destruction. As is deposed in your evidence./

        • Anonymous says:

          We recognize that you are severely mentally ill, but it is long past time to give up on a van with dust on its windshield as a proof for a mad woman’s fantasy that structural steel was magically transformed to dust by an imaginary beam weapon. The van was not crushed by falling rubble. It was not on the top of a rubble hill. It was not set on fire by flaming debris. IT WAS NOT TURNED INTO DUST by Judy’s Dustifyin’ Death Ray of Doom.

          Fight for your sanity, fool.

        • stephen briskey says:

          That’s correct pomeroo..Your confession there (albeit couched in ignoratio elenchi) confirms the facts of the van..It was driven and parked there during the initial DEW cooking of the towers..its operators doing their duty attending to relevant situations after the initial planted explosions in the towers. At the climatic dustification of the towers, where I hope the vans operators escaped their abandoned van…the van remained in that position and was not crushed by your “mountains of all the steel”.. because the majority of the steel and other elements of the buildings turned to dust in the air with some in evidence on the van… YOU know it, WE know it..and your mountains of bullshit confirm it more and more with every lying, contradictory, strawman deposition you leave…keep doing it you ludicrous fool.

        • Anonymous says:

          Please stop parading your stupidity and ignorance by misusing terms belonging to formal logic. You have a low IQ and little education.

          The presence of a van with dust on its windshield cannot conceivably support a fantasy about steel being magically transformed to dust.

          Seek psychiatric attention.

        • stephen briskey says:

          More of your lies and ignorance of the refutation pomeroo. Please keep it coming..The van had dust on its windscreen and no major damage.. (as it should have suffered) if the steel of the building had not turned to dust in mid air due to the DEW that destroyed the buildings of the WTC. You are absolutely useless at debate pomeroo…Stick to what you are experienced at moron…ie, car theft and pornography peddling. The shilling for the PNAC Gang deal you did with the authorities to mitigate your jail sentence for car theft wasn’t a good idea was it??. You need normal debating skills on the facts and the evidence you child. Even the tyro that you expect to intimidate and browbeat with your lies and abuse can tumble you now.. Your cowardly swerves on the van has totally exposed you as a pissant and leaves you with nothing but your exposed and permanent stupidity…As I keep saying..please keep your MO, going. It is more helpful in exposing you as a shill and Dr Woods and the site here as the reality…keep it up you purulent pissant.

        • Anonymous says:

          So we have established that your spectacular self-humiliation stems from a bizarre need to connect a van with a dusty windshield to your deranged goddess’s fantasy about an imaginary beam weapon magically transforming structural steel to dust.

          The van was not hit by any falling steel. If it had been, it would have been crushed. The structural steel ALL lay on the ground after the towers collapsed. That FACT is INDISPUTABLE. The steel can be seen is countless photos and videos. We New Yorkers walked past the rubble hills for months. The steel was removed from the WTC complex by trucks and barges. It was INVENTORIED at checkpoints before it left the complex. Over 250,000 TONS of steel was accounted for.

          Pretending that the steel didn’t exist stamps you as insane, but does nothing to support your mad cult’s lies.

        • stephen briskey says:

          What we, and the textual depositions have established beyond doubt pomeroo, is that the van was driven to its position before the major destruction of the towers and not AFTER the destruction as is evidenced in your depositions of that deliberate fallacy…(Anyone who still believes in this pomeroo shill should go back and check his depositions) What we have established is the van was not crushed by falling steel as it should have been had those beams fallen instead of turning to dust in mid air, as they did in reality… And as is evidenced in the extent videos of that phenomena. Anyone interested in how this pomeroo shill presents his evidence (sic.) Should follow the timeline of his answers, left as textual depositions when he is confronted by the facts in Dr Woods book, “WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO” and with questions about the events on that day. His responses when quizzed about them and when put in a position where he FAILS on that real evidence, is a fallback leitmotif of personal abuse, gas lighting and how the cleanup of that massive destruction (7 buildings and the peripheral damage) took nine months..ERGO; all the steel must have been on the ground.. EVEN WHEN, the photographic evidence CLEARLY shows, that it was NOT on the ground. A blatant lie but par for the course for this Ronald Wieck Shill.. His ignoratio elenchi and contradictory depositions alone would move any jury in the land to convict him. If any readers here are the audience that he seeks to convince with his lies..You must first be of a timid nature that can be deferred by his didactic browbeating and abuse of you if you even take an unbiased look at the evidence of Dr Wood. If you are the target audience that Wieck seeks to intimidate and be kept ignorant of the facts..then remember this..Ronald Wieck, being a sociopath..loathes and despises you for being impressionable enough to fall for his lies:
          …………Your turn Wieck

        • Anonymous says:

          Seriously, all the people who point out that you are mentally ill notice something that you are oblivious to.

        • stephen briskey says:

          Who are “these people”?

        • Anonymous says:

          LOOK at the photos. You see cars parked at a curb covered in dust. You see an ambulance with dust on its windshield but otherwise UNDAMAGED. The ambulance was NOT crushed by a falling building. It was NOT in the path of a falling building. It is NOT standing on TOP of a rubble hill. It would be IMPOSSIBLE for the ambulance to be on the TOP of a rubble hill.

          ALL the structural steel of the twin towers was ON THE GROUND after the buildings collapsed. There was no steel in the dust samples.


        • Anonymous says:

          LOOK at the photos. You see cars parked at a curb covered in dust. You see an ambulance with dust on its windshield but otherwise UNDAMAGED. The ambulance was NOT crushed by a falling building. It was NOT in the path of a falling building. It is NOT standing on TOP of a rubble hill. It would be IMPOSSIBLE for the ambulance to be on the TOP of a rubble hill.

          ALL the structural steel of the twin towers was ON THE GROUND after the buildings collapsed. There was no steel in the dust samples.


        • Anonymous says:

          LOOK at the photos. You see cars parked at a curb covered in dust. You see an ambulance with dust on its windshield but otherwise UNDAMAGED. The ambulance was NOT crushed by a falling building. It was NOT in the path of a falling building. It is NOT standing on TOP of a rubble hill. It would be IMPOSSIBLE for the ambulance to be on the TOP of a rubble hill.

          ALL the structural steel of the twin towers was ON THE GROUND after the buildings collapsed. There was no steel in the dust samples.


  13. pomeroo says:

    You cretins are fabulous fools. Your stupidity and insanity do not excuse your embrace of evil, however.

  14. pomeroo says:

    No vehicles were on top of the highest rubble hills–obviously! You still can’t understand why a structure that is 95% air by volume doesn’t leave a rubble pile almost the same size as the original building. Don’t feel bad. Your deranged goddess made that exact blunder, leading her into her mad alternate reality.

  15. pomeroo says:

    Say, did you cretins ever consider talking with a few of the firefighters who were on the scene after the hijacked planes hit the towers?


    • stephen briskey says:

      Did you talk to the firefighters pommy baby chickie? Ohh! I bet their big hoses got you excited? Did you talk to the the driver of the ER Medical van at the front of the ruins of cruelty on that day lover boy? Did you ask him/her, how they managed to get their van on to the top of your “mountains” of fallen rubble? As an afterthought pommy boy..I know you’re not that Senator, Ronald Weick but are you the R. Weick that was busted back in the late nineties for the stolen car racket?…where you copped a substantial laggon? Here in Oz we did a deal with a numptie wanna’be crim, to fake a multiple hit and run in Melbourne..(Smith Mundt Modernization style).. Jimmy Gargasoulas is his name. I do know you are a BDSM trader though pomeroo . Anyway pommy boy..I’m going to say you were that criminal because it seems inventing and perpetuating lies and gaslighting is your stock in trade here….. so fair cop ‘eh mate?

      • pomeroo says:

        Briskey, I don’t care that you are a homosexual. I care that you are a clueless idiot.

        Yes, I interviewed dozens of firefighters on the seventh anniversary of the jihadist attacks. Not one takes your evil cult seriously.

        Are you psychos still pretending that some creep in Pennsylvania who spells his name differently from mine might be me?

        • stephen briskey says:

          Are you still beating you wife?

        • Anonymous says:

          No, I am continuing to beat you, fraud.

        • stephen briskey says:

          You are NOT BEATING THE EVIDENCE pomeroo, you are reinforcing Dr Woods forensic good work with your lies and misdirections pomeroo….. Why wasn’t the van..and the people in stairway B; crushed by falling building components pomeroo??…its a simple question. Are you scared pomeroo? Are you scared that your limited audience of the easily intimidated and the epistemophobic will tumble you as the lying shill that the majority here have already tumbled you as being pomeroo? And you still haven’t disclosed your pecuniary shilling returns for all this shilling pomeroo… is it 30 pieces ?…Does it go even deeper than the quid pro quo pomeroo? Is there some diabolical-blackmail, sword of Damocles hanging over your head pomeroo? …heaven help you.

        • Anonymous says:

          Idiot, the van was not inside the WTC complex BEFORE the buildings collapsed. How stupid can you possibly be? It was driven into the rubble field AFTER the buildings collapsed. Nothing else is possible. The van is plainly NOT on top of a rubble hill.

          You were unable to read to the story detailing the experiences of the survivors of Stairwell B. You have condemned yourself to embracing madness.

        • stephen briskey says:

          Everyone has read your lies and they remain in deposition pomeroo. The van was abandoned as the towers deconstructed. All it acquired was a coating of dust. It was NOT driven into position after the dustification as your blatant lies depose. And pomeroo, as no one other than yourself refers to Dr Wood as a “goddess”..or mentions a “magic space beam”; it seems Dr Wood has some amorous grip on your psyche pomeroo ??? and you are having so much trouble understanding the valent bonds of electro-chemical attraction and their potential for disassociation by Directed Energy Technology pomeroo…and you are so bamboozled by your ignorance and inability to understand nature pomeroo, that your simple mind can only conjure up the “magic space beams” of your own lying ingorance . The survivors in stairway B have got you clutching at straws of misdirection again pomeroo. Their evidence was that the tower above them did not fall vertically but disassociated and blew away in the Directed Energy wind pomeroo. Did you flunk the sciences at school when you were a kiddie pomeroo? Was your mind occupied with stealing cars and scamming the public pomeroo? ..As your false witness turns to dust the more you try to consolidate it with futile lies and gaslighting pomeroo.. you leave a deposition trail that proves you are the funniest pissant, and one of the greatest unintentional verifiers of Dr Woods good work that I have ever struck in the shill community pomeroo…please don’t stop.

        • Anonymous says:

          Your stupidity has trapped you in a hopeless tangle. You are forced to pretend that an EMT van was inexplicably driven into the WTC complex before the towers collapsed. It did not happen. You are forced by your deranged devotion to a mad woman to ignore photographic evidence of the steel on the ground.

          No lie you can invent can affect reality in the slightest. ALL the steel was on the ground.

        • Anonymous says:

          You require psychiatric attention. I understand that many people have told you as much, but perhaps you ought to take them seriously.

          Your goddess claims, insanely, that most of the structural steel was magically transformed to dust by an imaginary beam weapon. She is quite mad. ALL of the steel was found on the ground.

          LOOK at the EMT photos:


  16. pomeroo says:

    Unhinged tinfoil-hatters will bray about imaginary beam weapons, magic hurricanes, and cars being destroyed on the FDR Drive. They quote irrelevant passages from their book of scared writings by ancient Hebrews. They will NEVER confront the indisputable facts, the same facts that prevent the raving lunatic they worship from ever facing anyone sane in a debate.


  17. Dale Masters says:

    This thread may be a year old…but the Truth remains the Truth, no matter how old.
    Don’t bother responding. I won’t be here.

    Click to access CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf

  18. pomeroo says:

    There are countless photos of the rubble hills at the WTC complex. ALL of them show the mountains of structural steel on the ground.

    Your deranged goddess pretends that steel was magically transformed to dust by an imaginary beam weapon that could have no conceivable energy source.

    She pretends that a hurricane that followed the usual track for Atlantic storms and never came within 475 miles of New York City did something magical that cannot be expressed in words.

    She shows a photo taken in the 1970s of a truck driving along West Street as a storm drain empties into the Hudson River. By 2001, West Street was separated from the river by 200 feet of landfill.

    You people have sacrificed your self-respect to a crazy woman preaching utterly mad nonsense.

  19. pomeroo says:

    The cimments by Judy’s zombies grow sillier and sillier. No one thinks a Boeing 737 is “forbidden” to fly faster than 3 250 K [sic] s at altitudes lower than 10,000 feet. Presumably, the know-nothing means 250 knots or 24 50 mph, but he is absurdly wrong.

    Next, the mad claim is made that no floor trusses were found among 250,000 tons of structural steel that lay on the ground after the building collapses.

    Does Judy’s Dustifyin’ Death Ray of Doom have a way of distinguishing the steel in the trusses from the steel in the columns?

    • bjackson says:

      I’ve looked at every single photo of the rubble pile and can’t find a single photo showing that in or near any rubble pile. Even if they were mangled, they’d still recognizable as to the components’. now please, link us to a photo showing same. and I thank you in advance.

      • Thomas Potter says:

        Mr. Ronald Wieck (pomeroo) is not interested in the truth. His modus operandi is to defend those who destroyed the World Trade Center and promote the official government-sponsored conspiracy theory. Denigrating Dr. Wood and those that support her is a waste of his energy.

        • pomeroo says:

          You have posted much zany nonsense in support of your deranged goddess’s nonsense, but you resist all hard facts. You rave mindlessly about core columns toppling over and destroying other buildings. Are you pretending that the columns were the height of the building??? Are you aware that the sections were pre-fabricated and connected at the joints? In fact, the collapse of WTC 7 did heavily damage Fiterman Hall ACROSS THE STREET.

          Your bizarre cult’s fantasies exist in an alternate reality.

        • stephen briskey says:

          You supply a link to a photo of a “collected” pile of debris from the entire WTC complex ..seven buildings.. Those buildings other than buildings 1 and 2 were severely damaged by DEWs but, were not dustified as were 1 and 2 and those buildings 3,4,5,6. and 7 had proportionally more remaining debris than towers 1 and 2. And tellingly; the photo you reference does not have the webbing type floors spans that you try to deceive people were present. The debris component is the leitmotif quote mining of your entire defense (abuse and gaslighting notwithstanding) and interestingly..you contribute more to the veracity of this forum than you may think. You keep providing a defense to that murderous act that is so easy to disprove, you actually boost the quantity of truth by your lies that are comically easy to tumble. Please don’t stop.

    • stephen briskey says:

      Mr? pomeroo..Could you explain svp, the extant and visible dynamic of the demolishing of Towers 1 and 2.? .Which far from indicating a collapse, displayed an effervescing, upward and outward movement of the elements of their construction before dispersing into the disassociated dust and debris that turned to dust as fell? Surely you saw that dynamic and not a vertical, successive compressive collapse????

      • pomeroo says:

        Yes, the videos of the collapses explain much, which is why crackpots can’t watch them.

        We see clearly that the collapses were initiated from the impact floors. We see the towers collapsing and producing clouds of concrete and gypsum dust. We see gravity causing lateral ejections.

        When the dust settles, we see ALL the structural steel lying on the ground.

        • stephen briskey says:

          You must get paid to depose such lies. No one would expose themselves as such a dope gratis.

  20. bjackson says:

    Two points; One a recent article discussing the B737 Max fiasco reveals that the a/c is forbidden to go faster than 250k below 10,000 feet … it’s too damaging to the wings/body.
    Two: I’ve looked at probably every photo of the ‘pile’ the Towers collapse left. I don’t see a single piece of what should have been one of the metal trusses used to support the concrete floors.
    As there were approx. 220 floors in total, surely a single piece would have survives?

    • Anonymous says:

      …..al jebr…
      The patriot hasn’t sussed it yet
      But embusques’ smirk on their TV Sets
      Was the missing piece of the jigsaw jets:

      • Anonymous says:

        I’m not sure of the title of the particular plane impact, video piece but, it is the one where the firemen and co are doing something in the street and the video camera concerned is strangely looking skyward as the “plane” appears to come from behind a building on the right side of the frame, travel through a section of clear sky and then impact the building in time with a firey explosion. If the sequence is taken back and slowed right down..there is a clear space of free air between the right side building and where the plane first appears in the sky. In other words..the plane does not come from behind the building but first appears in the space between the buildings. Whoever supplied that video has inserted the plane initially in the sky and not coming from behind the building. At normal speed of course, the eye just accepts that the plane has come rom behind the building on the right. Perhaps master pommaroo can counter that evidence with his leitmotif that nothing turned to dust and the minimal debris on the ground was the totality of the debris? Or his fallback tactic…amateur gaslighting?

  21. pomeroo says:

    A liar is pretending that the rubble hills were no more than 2% the height of the original towers. Photographic evidence and on-site investigations revealed them to be 60-70 feet high, or 5-6% the height of the structures.

    Judy’s zombies cannot understand why a building that is 95% air by volume would be reduced to 5% of its original height when compressed. They have rejected science and reason.

    BUT–they are proud of their stupidity and ignorance.

  22. pomeroo says:

    The deranged fantasist Potter bleats helplessly that his goddess’s magic Dustifyin’ Death Ray of Doom transformed the structural steel of the twin towers to dust. He is not inconvenienced by the indisputable FACT that NO steel turned to dust. It was all found on the ground and hauled away to Fresh kills and other holding centers over a period of nine months.
    If the the hopelessly brain-damaged Judy Wood ever dared to confront her superiors her zombies would be crushed. How s could she have lied to us all these years?


    It takes a special kind of psycho to pretend that the mutnains of steel we walked past for months did not exist.

  23. pomeroo says:

    The video clip does not show steel magically turning into dust. No steel turned into dust. Judy’s deranged zombies ignore the existence of the mountains of steel on the ground.

    Your zany lies can never get past reality.

    • Thomas Potter says:

      Mr. Ronald Wieck (pomeroo) is correct. The WTC towers did not magically turn into dust in less than 10 seconds never hitting the ground. The WTC towers were DELIBERATELY turned into dust in less than 10 seconds never hitting the ground.

      Since Mr. Wieck demonstrates a propensity to believe in fictionalized events, does he also believe that King Kong climbed the Empire State Building too?

      The Most Feared Person In The World: Dr. Judy Wood

    • Mountains of steel??? That’s rich Pomeroo. For openers, see Figure 87(d): On the afternoon of 9/11/01 the “rubble pile” left from WTC1 is essentially non-existent. WTC7 can be seen in the distance, revealing the photo was taken before 5:20 PM that day—http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam6.html or Figure 87(e): The “rubble pile” from WTC1 is essentially non-existent. The ambulance is parked at ground level in front of WTC1. WTC6, which had been an eight-story building, towers over the remains of WTC1. These two photos are also found in Wood’s book, Where Did the Towers Go?, pp. 173 and 114 respectively. The rest of the evidence like ‘punk’ seismic impact and an intact ‘bathtub’ in her book thoroughly destroy your ‘mountains of steel’ nonsense. Fact is that there was a woeful undersupply of twin tower debris/remains. Pomeroo in effect advises us, ‘Don’t believe your lying eyes, believe me.”

      • pomeroo says:

        Over a period of nine months workers toiling on the rubble hills 24/7 removed roughly 1.5 MILLION tons of rubble and debris, including 250,000 tons of structural steel. The steel was inventoried as it was moved out of the WTC complex. It was taken to Fresh Kills and other holding centers on trucks and barges.

        It is insane to deny reality.

  24. byram fong says:

    pomeroo says:
    May 3, 2019 at 4:08 pm :
    …..ALL of the structural steel lay on the ground and was removed to Fresh Kills and other holding centers over a period of none months……
    “none months” fruedian slip

    • pomeroo says:

      Yeah, the obvious typo was a Freudian slip. We New Yorkers didn’t really SEE the mountains of steel on the ground. The trucks and barges carrying that steel to holding centers were all figments of our imaginations.

      When suckers are emotionally invested in nonsense, it’s not possible to shake them loose. All good con artists understand that and Judy is a con artist.

  25. pomeroo says:

    The “skin” of a plane is a metaphor. Planes do not have skin: they are tubes encased in metal. No “skin” would be present on the entry holes.

    Plenty of aircraft debris was found at the WTC complex and the Pentagon. Roughly 95% of UA 093 was found near Shanksville and y the reassembled aircraft is stored at Iron Mountain.

    • Thomas Potter says:

      The SKIN of an aircraft is the outer surface which covers much of its wings and fuselage. The most commonly used materials are aluminum and aluminum alloys with other metals, including zinc, magnesium and copper.


      The SKIN thickness at the base of the chemically milled step measured 0.035 to 0.037 inch—which is less than the 0.039-inch minimum thickness specified by Boeing. Calculations from an NTSB study of the fatigue striation density and propagation in the fatigue region indicate that it would take an average of 3,709 total cycles for a crack to grow through skin with 0.035-inch thickness and an average interval of 917 cycles for a crack to grow from a minimally detectable size and penetrate a 0.035-inch SKIN thickness.


      (See the plane parts in the impact area? This is what happens when a real plane collides with a real building. And the Empire State building did not turn into dust in mid air.)

      • pomeroo says:

        Thank you for confirming that planes do not have “skin.” The crashes of AA11 and UA 175 left plane-shaped entry holes because they were planes!


        The B-25 that flew into the Empire State building was a much smaller plane and it hit a building that was constructed very differently from the uniquely designed towers.


        No steel turned to dust on 9/11. ALL the structural steel was found on the ground and removed to Fresh Kills and other holding centers over a period of nine months.

        • Thomas Potter says:

          Mr. Ronald Wieck (pomeroo) appears to be mentally impaired since I DID confirm that passenger jet planes have a thin skin. Be that as it may, his thin-skin is more apparent since he is so sensitive to criticism and slights.

          The B-25 crash into the Empire State Building is significant because it influenced the design of the World Trade Center towers.

          Critics Impugned on Trade Center; Towers Called Safe
          New York Times by Thomas W. Ennis 2/15/1964

          “Richard Roth of the architectural firm of Emery Roth & Sons issued the statement defending the safety of the twin towers, which the firm, in association with Minoru Yamasaki, designed for the center.

          Mr. Roth said that a structural analysis by the firm of Worthington, Skilling, Helle & Jackson had found that if a tower were hit by an airliner at 600 miles an hour, the damage to the tower would be only local and its occupants outside the immediate area of impact would not be endangered.”


          Twin Towers Engineered To Withstand Jet Collision
          Seattle Times Saturday, February 27, 1993

          “Skilling, based in Seattle, is among the world’s top structural engineers. He is responsible for much of Seattle’s downtown skyline and for several of the world’s tallest structures, including the Trade Center.

          Concerned because of a case where an airplane hit the Empire State Building, Skilling’s people did an analysis that showed the towers would withstand the impact of a Boeing 707.”

          The analysis Skilling is referring to is one done in early 1964, during the design phase of the towers. A three-page white paper, dated February 3, 1964, described its findings: “The buildings have been investigated and found to be safe in an assumed collision with a large jet airliner (Boeing 707—DC 8) traveling at 600 miles per hour. Analysis indicates that such collision would result in only local damage which could not cause collapse or substantial damage to the building and would not endanger the lives and safety of occupants not in the immediate area of impact.”

          City in the Sky: The Rise and Fall of the World Trade Center by James Glanz and Eric Lipton page 131

          The other structural engineer who designed the towers, Leslie Robertson, carried out a second study later in 1964, of how the towers would handle the impact of a 707.

          Also according to Robertson, the WTC towers were “in fact the first structures outside the military and nuclear industries designed to resist the impact of a jet airplane.”

          Reflections on the World Trade Center by Leslie E. Robertson

          However, in an attempt to cover-up this fact, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), following its three-year investigation into the WTC collapses, will in 2005 state that it has been “unable to locate any evidence to indicate consideration of the extent of impact-induced structural damage or the size of a fire that could be created by thousands of gallons of jet fuel.”

          Final Report on the Collapse of the World Trade Center Towers 9/2005
          Chapter 1 page 13

          Click to access ncstar1.pdf

        • We also have the fact that a Boeing 707 could never approach 600 mph near sea level due to the impossibility of any airliner to overcome the “thick” air which is 3x the density of the thin air at 30,000+ feet altitude. So the towers had tremendous redundant strength.

        • pomeroo says:

          I exposed years ago your absurd lies about the maximum speeds reachable by commercial airliners. Planes do not fly at 1,000 feet because it is not efficient. NOBODY thinks any of the hijacked planes CRUISED at low altitudes. UA 175 came out of a 24,000-ft. power dive in less than five minutes.

          I advised you to consult with a physics teacher. You prefer beclowning yourself.

          Ain’t my problem…

      • stephen briskey says:

        WIECK? By name and by nature….in the beginning was the word.

        • pomeroo says:

          Bear in mind that you suckers are willfully blind to reality. After totally beclowning yourselves, you remain trapped in a tiny sewer on the net. NO steel turned to dust. Your a zany lies can’t get past that indisputable FACT.

          There isn’t a single physicist or structural engineer alive who swallows your deranged goddess’s horse shit.

        • Thomas Potter says:

          Why does little Ronny protest so much if Dr. Wood is wrong?

          If little Ronny’s death was determined to be homicide by gunshot, the forensic investigation better report a bullet hole in little Ronny’s body. Would the coroner’s report of homicide by gunshot be a theory or a conclusion from ALL of the EVIDENCE? You can’t present a theory in court. This is why Dr. Wood’s work is irrefutable. She only presents EVIDENCE and an analysis of that EVIDENCE. There is no use for a theory in forensic science. Either you know something or you don’t. That is why those in charge of a cover up don’t want people to look at the EVIDENCE in Dr. Wood’s book. Dr. Wood does not ask you to believe her. She only wants you to believe yourself and think for yourself and look at the EVIDENCE yourself and not argue about opinions of theories of speculation of ideas. That is what keeps a cover up in place. Those of us who have read Dr. Wood’s book know this to be true.

          The EVIDENCE is that the buildings turned to dust right before your eyes.

        • stephen briskey says:

          Pomeroo is going where we all must go..I think I understand now that he hasn’t really grasped the shame that will be his legacy here.

        • pomeroo says:

          For unfathomable reasons unhinged fools keep showing video of a spire falling to the ground behind a cloud of concrete and gypsum dust. They rave mindlessly that the spire had been magically transformed to dust by a futuristic beam weapon with no conceivable source of power. There is no evidence whatever for the existence of such comic book technology.
          Of course, sections of the spire can be seen today in museums devoted to the jihadist attacks of 9/11/2001.
          Strange people, motivated entirely by hatred of the United States, pretend that a hurricane that never came within 475 miles of New York and had no effect on the weather there did…something! These people are impervious to reason and evidence, insisting that the roughly 1.5 MILLION tons of rubble and debris that was removed from the WTC complex over a period of NINE MONTHS simply did not exist. They worship a severely brain-damaged woman as a goddess.


        • stephen briskey says:

          Pomeroo!….Mate!…This is not the forum for your ranting gaslighting and or false witness. That stuff (your tactic) is for the uninitiated, the impressionable, and it exposes you as a either a paid corroborator for the PNAC Imperium, OR; a risible fool. The popularized “spire”..was the internal, service spine of the twin towers. The very spine of the structures that the peripheral build elements were attached to. A somewhat genius modular construction but, recognizable elsewhere in nature. This central service core was immense in its atomic weight. Its debris pile alone (if not dustified) would amount to debris pile at least twice as high as that left after was the reality… the atomic and the molecular disassociation of the matter of the building elements of the immense structures. So, Pomeroo, in the spirit of reciprocal ad hominem ..what art thou, agent, or complete childish fool??

        • pomeroo says:

          Your nearly incoherent gibberish reveals your mental illness.

          Your mad goddess’s fantasy that steel was magically transformed to dust by an imaginary beam weapon is absurd.

          ALL the structural steel was found on the ground.

        • stephen briskey says:

          Mother Weick: (after catching little Weicky at the cookie jar with crumbs all over his cake hole):
          “Ronny you little pissant!..I distinctly told you not to eat the cookies.”

          Little Ronny: (psychologically driven to reactionary vainglory):
          “You deranged Jewish Mother In Law!, even the physics dilettante could tell you that these aren’t cookie crumbs but, maintain your delusions if you like..I’m innocent of all your imaginary accusations and charges”…”As a matter of fact, and its a know fact because thousands of people didn’t see me on TV stealing those cookies.” “And another thing, how could I have even eaten cookies when this kitchen lacks even the most rudimentary baking facilities and you’re the stupidest bitch that Ezekiel ever created from dust?…you ludicrous old moo ”
          Mother Weick: (a new found pride swelling in her mothers’ bosom” “Go son.. you good thing!” ;-p

        • pomeroo says:

          Why are all Jew-haters deranged? What have your Joooos to do with the demonstrable fact that your goddess is insane?

          NO steel turned to dust. No lie your mad goddess can invent can affect that reality.

  26. anonymous says:

    Wood’s analysis basically goes like this: “A commercial airliner could not handle those g-forces, therefore no planes hit the WTC.” Her logic is deeply flawed, and yet she ridicules others for making stupid assumptions. I will tell you what happened, but you will have to confirm it yourself: The planes that hit the WTC were designed for this purpose and painted to resemble airliners. They had a reinforced chassis which could handle those stress loads, so they could go fast enough to conceal details that people would otherwise notice, like the pods on the bottom. Check the crazy flight path of the hijacked planes: why do they wander aimlessly for so long, increasing the risk of interception, instead of going straight for the target? It was a shell game: the deep state needed to find a point where the switchoff was undetectable. Remember the hijacking drill that was running simultaneously. At some point the military drones began to impersonate the hijacked airliners on radar. This trick was originally proposed for Operation Northwoods. A substitution was needed because commercial aircraft would not bring the towers down. Those military planes carried something which facilitated the towers collapse. Muslim jihadis were never in control of anything: the secret government never allows such wildcards to jeopardize a major false flag operation. Those planes were remotely hijacked through a secret safety feature built into the autopilot. They landed in the normal way and the passengers were disposed of. Check how many airports were evacuated on 9/11 and try to find the ATC evidence from that day. What might the public do when they realize who was responsible for this? That’s why the deep state is so desperate to disarm you and they keep using hypnotized shooters on psych drugs as a justification. Their time is almost up.

    • Thomas Potter says:

      Where is the plane debris? Planes do not enter steel and concrete buildings like a warm knife into soft butter and just disappear. However, advanced classified hologram technology projecting an image of a plane can easily violate empirical observations of physical behavior.

      Newton’s Third Law of Motion: “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.” An aluminum plane hitting a thick steel beam will have the same effect as a steel beam being swung at the same speed and hitting the plane. It makes no difference which one is moving as to the effect on the plane and the beam. In both cases the thick steel beam will do damage to the plane and the beam will emerge relatively undamaged. The faster the speed at the point of impact, the more damage that will be done to the plane. Try punching a steel girder. No matter how fast your hand is traveling, you will not be able to break through it; you will eventually break your hand. It matters not if the girder is swung at your hand or you swing your hand at the girder; assuming the impact is at the same speed, the injury to your hand would be the same.

      Let’s apply Newton’s Third Law to Flight 175. In the 9/11 Fairyland Story, Flight 175 strikes the South Tower at 450 m.p.h. Now imagine that the South Tower moved at 450 m.p.h. and struck a stationary Flight 175. We would not expect that Flight 175 would be undamaged. We would not expect that it would simply disappear into the South Tower. Any video that shows an aluminum airplane with a fiberglass nose cone gliding through a steel and concrete building violates Newton’s Laws of Motion.

      • loo says:

        plane is doing poof

        • S. Briskey says:

          Do you suspect the plane is “real” .. and somehow effected by something similar to the DEW that dustified the buildings but; operating on a much quicker dynamic?

        • pomeroo says:

          Do you pathetic fools ever abandon your zany fanatsies?

        • S. Briskey says:

          Tell the readers again, how a plane travelling at 500mph, “CAN ENTER A STEELL AND CONCRETE BUILDING LIKE A HOT KNIFE THROUGH BUTTER” …..Tell us again Pomeroo.
          I heard some good dad-jokes over the past few days but yours was the best.
          Tell us again.

        • pomeroo says:

          Aircraft wreckage was found at all four crash sites. When a 130-ton object moving 500 mph hits quarter-inch steel and glass windows, it slices through like a hot knife through soft butter.

          I have often posted the MIT paper on the crash physics. Judy’s zombies cannot read a word of it.

        • S. Briskey says:

          G;eéz Pomerooo! That’s a telling, though unwanted revelation or two by you. And a departure away from your standard shtick of “all the steel was on the ground” bullshit.
          To the dilettante and the tyro that was your best defense as there actually was at least a token bit of rubble at the ruins of cruelty after the DEW did its thing.
          You have now left a deposition saying its physically acceptable for an alloy air frame to enter a building, as per the relevant video; like a hot knife through butter.
          The acceptance of those physics dependent on a speed of 500mph.
          And you have linked the authority and validity of MIT to that deposition as a corroborate.
          The thing is Pomeroo .. there are those whose grasp of electro-chemical physics is such that simplistic nonsense is the answer they choose because of their ignorance (your target audience)
          Don’t you think though that to those with average comprehension has just received more evidence as to your shithead game?
          It’s one step forward and three steps back to achieve your amoral aims Pomeroo.
          It’s a practical as, well as a moral loss. …….very strange.

        • pomeroo says:

          You are a dull-witted crank who has never taken a science course. Your inability to learn has made you a laughingstock for your entire life.

          A 130-ton object moving 500 mph cuts through quarter-inch steel and glass windows like a hot knife through soft butter. That is INDISPUTABLE.
          Your confusion eads you make nonsensical statements about the structural steel found on the ground. ALL of the steel was accounted for. NONE of it was magically transformed to dust by imaginary beam weapons.

          You allude to the MIT paper that I often link to. You can’t read a word of it, so why waste everyone’s time?

        • S. Briskey says:

          There you are ladies and gentlemen ….Scientist Pomeroo; corroborated by MIT, says alloy airframes can penetrate steel and concrete buildings like a hot knife through butter.
          I asked him to repeat his penetrating knowledge of ballistics and impact dynamics .. and he has repeated it.
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT Pommeroos’ and MITs’ missions now kids?

        • pomeroo says:

          Yes, Boeing 767s moving over 500 mpg can indeed slice right through QUARTER-INCH STEEL AND GLASS WINDOWS.

          Your lies have failed for many years. Time to seek psychiatric attention, sucker.

        • Steve briskey says:

          He repeats…Of what capacity of physics comprehension is the pomeroo believer?

        • pomeroo says:

          Yes, you idiot, I REPEAT that the planes hit the FACADES of the towers. No sane human disputes this fact. The facades featured at the impact floors QUARTER-INCH steel and glass windows. This FACT cannot be disputed.

          You mindlessly refer to physics, but you never took a physics course.

          When I link to the MIT paper explaining the crash physics, you and your fellow imbeciles can’t read a word

        • Steve briskey says:

          Well DUH! Pomerooooooo! Of course we don’t believe a word of MIT if its postulation is that alloy airframes can penetrate steel and concrete buildings.
          Any tyro physicist will know the fundamentals of physics don’t allow that to transpire no matter what speeds are involved.
          And as a matter of fact I topped the alumni in my physics year. I did my thesis on an experiment where I fired a marshmallow at your forehead and because of the density differentials; the marshmallow actually did slip into your skull like a rent boy through pillow-biter, and struck your pineal gland.
          I then fired a jigsaw jet at your forehead, which behaved completely differently.
          Which does explain your present state of comprehension of material physics and for that we’re all really sorry.

        • pomeroo says:

          True, idiots reject science. You prefer your mad fantasy that the glass windows and quarter-inch steel the planes sliced through was really a concrete bunker.

          But, keep in mind that you are crazy, stupid, and ignorant.

        • Steve briskey says:

          Well that was a sad attempt at a verbal Pomreoooooo.
          One of your worst.
          Pomerooooooo? As the lone, contradictory Xenolith in this otherwise mountain of what you call idiot consensus. And there is obviously none of your target demographic left here to coerce … Why do you stay here and tolerate our chronic stupidity Pomerooooo? ….Are you just lonely Pomerooooooooooo? and you have no friends or nowhere else to go?

        • pomeroo says:

          Have you noticed that the severely brain-damaged woman you imbeciles worship doesn’t say anything? She can’t face real structural engineers or physicists, so she remains silent.

          You are obviously nuts, so none of this ever penetrates the granite encasing your tiny brain.

        • Steve briskey says:

          Wood has written the book, that your “real” structural engineers haven’t got the balls to face pomeroooo…
          Just like you pomeroooooo, they are gutless, subordinate little pissants.

        • pomeroo says:

          Judy’s deranged ranting is good for laughs and nothing else. She uses a photo of trucks driving along West Street with the Hudson River running alongside. Unfortunately, the photo was taken in the 70s, long before two hundred feet of landfill separated the street from the river.

          She shows a photo of water off the NYC docks and adds an arro pointing out to ea and labels it “Hurricane Erin.” The storm never came within 475 miles of the city and did not affect weather here.

          She points to steam escaping from a subway grating and insanely calls it “poofing.”

          The woman is quite mad and her imbecilic zombies are no better.

        • Steve briskey says:

          And all the extant videos show the upward and outward cascade of the huge building elements effervescing from the core DEW dynamic that destroyed the buildings don’t they Pomeroooo?
          Why don’t you post some videos of that pomeroo to prove your point?
          You can’t avoid those videos and you can’t explain it to any one with eyes who views it can you pomeroo? Which is why you keep attempting to divert potential viewers of that dynamic with your otherwise compartmentalised box bullshit isn’t it pomeroo?
          You still haven’t explained why you keep coming back here pomeroo, to educate we idiots with your special, abusive edifications.?

        • pomeroo says:

          All the videos and photos show buildings collapsing in huge clouds of concrete and gypsum dust. When the dust settled–and there was TEN THOUSAND TONS of dust–ALL the structural steel and over 1.2 MILLION TONS of rubble and debris lay on the ground.

          You can NEVER get your fantasies past the most basic and irrefutable FACTS.

        • Steve briskey says:

          Post those videos showing the collapse, here then pomer00000…
          So the jury can see the dynamic of destruction as you describe.
          They are extant and everywhere already but, prove your case by showing us you also have the balls to post them here.
          You’re not scared to put your reputation where your keypad is are you pomer00000?.
          You’re just a little pissant coward are you pomer000000?
          Your turn pomer000000′ back to your lies and gaslighting.

        • Steve briskey says:

          Pomer000 ? Mate! …That’s a B.S. man made cartoon of the impossibility of an alloy plane entering a building….Not the video you were challenged to depose.
          And it’s a post mortem photo of the staged and positioned, plane shaped explosions.
          Can’t you find the link to the video of the core destruction dynamic as the buildings dematerialized?
          Can’t or won’t pomer000??
          If there’s any one left here other than me listening to you pomer000, they now think you’re a lying coward.

  27. pomeroo says:

    It is amusing that a delusional fool bleats that a rationalist behaves like a rabid dog when he exposes fantastic nonsense.

    Something prevents people here from recognizing that Judy Wood is insane. Her signature claim is that the structural steel of the twin towers was magically transformed into dust by imaginary futuristic weapons. For those of us who are not impaired, it is a problem that NO steel turned into dust. ALL of the structural steel lay on the ground and was removed to Fresh Kills and other holding centers over a period of none months. The trucks and barges that transported the steel and other debris were inventoried each time they left Ground Zero. Details of the cleanup are readily available, but true believers emotionally invested in nonsense cannot be troubled to examine them.

  28. NBB says:

    Hi phahrenheit451, in that video after point 3: is that the North Tower spire or a segment of the exterior shell of the building? It looks more like a portion of the exterior shell of the building (with one very long piece of the exterior WTC linear detailing/structural support) remains standing before it finally too collapses essentially straight down while converting to dust.

    • pomeroo says:

      No steel turned into dust. The spire that you fantasize about can be seen in various museums devoted to the jihadist attacks of 9/11. It is 2019 and lunatics are still raving about steel being transformed by magic into dust.

      It didn’t happen.

      • Thomas Potter says:

        One must question why Mr. Ronald Wieck (pomeroo) behaves as a rabid dog in covering up the classified technology used by the powers that be on 9/11 to further their plans of world domination.

        The above image taken during the destruction of WTC1 is superimposed on an image taken before 9/11 to show where these (momentarily) remaining core columns were located within the building. It also shows the relative height of these columns; they appear to reach above mechanical floors (floors 75-76). Because of its appearance, this group of briefly-remaining core columns has been referred to as “the spire.”

        Consider the importance of this matter. These core columns stood rigidly and without support AFTER the total destruction of the building around them. IF THEY HAD FALLEN OVER, THEY WOULD HAVE DESTROYED BUILDINGS OVER SEVERAL CITY BLOCKS. These columns stood well above the 47-story WTC7 and extended half again that building’s height, to a level of about 71 stories. As noted from the superimposed image above, they appear to extend above the upper mechanical floors of WTC1, or to a height above 78 stories.
        1368(ft)*(71/110) = 883 feet, or 1368 (ft)*(78/110) = 970 feet.

        If this remaining group of core columns had been positioned horizontally rather than vertically, it would be approximately the length of three football fields. Yet, there is no evidence that these core columns landed on or damaged ANY buildings within that distance. Where did they go? What could have happened to them other than that they turned to dust?

        Instead of falling, however, both towers, like the “spire,” turned to dust. If the buildings “fell” at free-fall speeds, the tops would have encountered no more resistance from the lower portions than they would have encountered from air. But, instead, the tops disintegrated while falling, as if they were encountering VERY HIGH resistance. Here we have conditions that contradict each other. We do not see the steel beams striking anything other than air. THEN WHY ARE THEY BEING PULVERIZED AS THEY FALL?

        WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? Chapter 8 Dustification, Section C Dustification of Material, pages 133 to 139

        Case 1:07-cv-03314-GBD Document 59-19 Filed 02/29/2008 Page 1 of 15

        Click to access 080229AfdJWRFCaplExE4_59-1.pdf

    • stephen briskey says:

      The “spire” ..was actually the central service core..elevators etc. and the structural and immensely strong spine of the structure that the outer casing and the floors were tied to in a reinforced, ductile type construction. It was that immense steel core that was dissociated and turned to dust and expired….Just as we saw but could not experientially comprehend at the time. Cheers to Dr Wood for tumbling it as not a collapse.

  29. pomeroo says:

    Judy’s mindless zombies rave that her mad fabrications are somehow “evidence” for her fantasies. Evidence, however, must be reality-based. When Judy pretends that a significant portion of the structural steel of the twin towers was magically transformed into dust, she is PROVABLY WRONG.

    Judy’s zany comic book shows a truck moving along West Street while a storm drain empties into the Hudson River. What Judy does not tell her suckers is that the photo was taken in the 1970s, before the construction of Battery Park City. By 2001, more than 200 feet of landfill separated West Street from the river.

    Judy raves about a hurricane that never came within 475 miles of New York City and did not affect the weather there.

    • Thomas Potter says:

      Words from Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount, in the Gospel of Matthew, were found by a firefighter in March 2002, under the Tully Road, a temporary truck route that covered the last remnants of the south tower. The pages of the Bible in which they were printed had fused to a chunk of steel as the World Trade Center turned to dust in mid-air, to be found only months later.

      “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I tell you not to resist an evildoer. On the contrary, whoever slaps you on the right cheek, turn the other to him as well. If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat as well. And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go two with him. Give to the person who asks you for something, and do not turn away from the person who wants to borrow something from you.”

      The fabric of the human mind is flexible, but the strings of credulity can only stretch out so far, and then incredulity settles in. The image above depicts an artifact residing in the 9/11 Museum of an open Bible fused to a hunk of steel wreckage, with some of the steel overlapping the pages after it was softened by a type of directed energy. How could this happen and not have burned the paper yet the result can clearly be seen?

      The autoignition point of paper has a range of from 440 – 470°F, depending on the type of paper. Steel melts at 2500°F. How then, did this artifact of bible pages become “fused” with steel, without the paper combusting into a blackened mass of ashes?

      Revisit that day, and remember all the images of showers of paper floating down through the air and scattering all over the sidewalks and streets, when the towers were destroyed. These papers were intact and surely not burned. What process was at work that could turn steel and concrete towers to dust, and yet not affect paper?

      A process used in directed energy technology can cause a dissociation and alteration of the molecular structure of metal, to fuse with combustible objects and appear as if the materials melted together, but with no discernable evidence of heat or combustion.

      So evidently, a technology exists which can accomplish those results, the results seen in the Bible papers fused to the steel. This is not a miracle, other than this technology being able to appear miraculous to most people. Arthur C. Clarke once opined: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Other forces were at work the day of 9/11, other than magic or the hand of the Divine.

      Very much related to this anomalous artifact in the 9/11 Museum, is another one found in the ruins of an almost forgotten and seldom mentioned building which was immediately destroyed on the morning of 9/11,

      St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox church, just across the street from the south side of the South Tower, or WTC-2. When retrieval of the relics in the church was undertaken in the following days, only a few pieces survived.. and one find was called a miracle. “The great miracle, was the recovery of an icon of St. Spyridon. The silver around the icon had melted, but the paper icon had not been burnt.”

      This discovery was one of the church’s most holy relics, and it was declared a miracle because the silver onlay applied to a paper icon of St. Spyridon had “dustified”, leaving the paper intact and unscorched. The melting point of silver is 1,763°F.

    • bjackson says:

      That aircraft that crashed in Queen was an Airbus, built by cheese eating surrender monkeys, aka: the French . Now good ol’ Boeing products are so tough even the tail can penetrate steel and concrete. An to keep the aircraft affordable, they contract out their flight software to India – home of quality!!!!

  30. pomeroo says:

    Judy Wood is insane. When you pretend that the 250,000 TONS of steel left on the ground by the tower collapses did not exist, you are ramming your head into a brick wall of reality.

    No steel is turning to dust in any video. The spire is simply falling through a cloud of gypsum and concrete dust.

    Judy’s book is a farrago of nonsense. She raves mindlessly about a hurricane that never came within 475 miles of New York City and did not affect the weather there. She shows a truck driving along West Street as a storm drain empties into the Hudson River, failing to mention that the photo was taken before the construction of Battery Park City in the 70s. By 2001, West Street was separated from the river by 200 feet of landfill. She appears in a photo beside a subway grating from which steam is escaping and she describes the commonplace event as magical “poofing.”

    Have you people no self-respect to be conned by someone who is seriously mentally ill?

    • Thomas Potter says:

      Decredentializing a highly qualified expert like Dr. Wood by appealing to spite, ridicule, or willful ignorance does nothing to support a valid argument Mr. Wieck.

      Ronald Wieck (pomeroo) is not an expert in forensic engineering and science.

      Ronald Wieck (pomeroo) is not an expert in nuclear physics.

      Ronald Wieck (pomeroo) is not an expert in structural engineering.

      Ronald Wieck (pomeroo) is not an expert in materials engineering science.

      Ronald Wieck (pomeroo) is not an expert in engineering mechanics.

      • pomeroo says:

        It is insane–literally-to pretend that the 250, 000 TONS of steel on the ground did not exist. The steel required NINE MONTHS to haul away to Fresh kills and other holding centers.

        The claim that large amounts of the WTC complex were magically transformed into dust flies in the face of reality.

        • Thomas Potter says:

          Even if we didn’t live in a free country, Ronald Wieck (pomeroo) would be permitted to echo nonfactual statements that support the powers that be no matter how much overwhelming, indisputable, and conclusive evidence Dr. Wood provides which exposes his deliberate falsehoods made to pass as fact for propagandistic purposes.

          A working definition of propaganda is the spreading of ideas (19 bad guys with box cutters), information, or rumor (Osama bin Laden did it) for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause (American Imperialism ), or a person like Dr. Wood. While propaganda has been around for almost a thousand years, only recently (last 100 years) with the advent of technologies that allow us to spread information to a mass group has it evolved to a scientific process capable of influencing a whole nation of people. Modern propaganda uses all the media available to spread its message, including: press, radio, television, film, computers (9/11 Truther Websites, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, Reddit, etc.), fax machines, posters, meetings, door-to-door canvassing, handbills, buttons, billboards, speeches, flags, street names, monuments, museums (9/11 Tribute Museum), coins, stamps, books, plays, comic strips, poetry, music, sporting events, cultural events, company reports, libraries, and awards (9/11 Heroes Medal of Valor) and prizes.

          Here is how it operates: A relatively few well-connected correspondents provide the “scoops” that get the coverage in the relatively few mainstream news sources – the four TV networks, TIME, Newsweek, CNN – where the parameters of debate are set and the “official reality” is consecrated for the bottom feeders in the news chain. This is Domestic Psychological Warfare and the effects aren’t limited to the physical damage inflicted. Instead, the goal of these attacks is to instill a sense of fear that is much greater than the actual threat itself. In 2001 U.S. motor vehicle deaths were 42,196 vs. a combined total of 2,996 reported deaths on 9/11. It appears that Mr. Wieck is a victim of mob mentality.

          “The mob believes everything it is told, provided only that it be repeated over and over. Provided too that its passions, hatreds, fears are catered to. Nor need one try to stay within the limits of plausibility: on the contrary, the grosser, the bigger, the cruder the lie, the more readily is it believed and followed. Nor is there any need to avoid contradictions: the mob never notices; needless to pretend to correlate what is said to some with what is said to others: each person or group believes only what he is told, not what anyone else is told; needless to strive for coherence: the mob has no memory; needless to pretend to any truth: the mob is radically incapable of perceiving it: the mob can never comprehend that its own interests are what is at stake.”
          ― Alexandre Koyré, Réflexions sur le mensonge

        • pomeroo says:

          The deranged Judy Wood pretends that steel was magically transformed to dust. However, ALL the structural steel was found on the ground. There is a disconnect between Wood’s mad claim and reality.

          Lies cannot cause the mountains of rubble and debris to vanish. It took 1,000 workers toiling 24/7 on the rubble hills for NINE MONTHS to remove almost 1.5 MILLION TONS of rubble and debris. NOTHING can alter that FACT.

        • Thomas Potter says:

          Truth does not have an expiration date. Dr. Judy Wood’s collection of evidence contained in her book, WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?, will far outlive Ronald Wieck (pomeroo). She doesn’t ask the reader to believe in her overwhelming, indisputable, and conclusive evidence. She simply presents the evidence and let’s the reader decided for themselves. We have no need for people like Ronald Wieck, James Fetzer, or Richard Gage to do the thinking for us. Those that choose to focus on hearsay, speculation, conspiracy theories, or unqualified opinions while ignoring irrefutable factual evidence by avoiding it is what keeps a cover-up in place. Diverting the public to arguing between the two false choices of “9/11 Truthers” verses “The Official 9/11 Conspiracy Theory” while ignoring the facts is classic perception management designed to hide and obscure the evidence.

          “Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.”
          ― Aldous Huxley, Complete Essays 2, 1926-29

        • LaoShur says:

          Yeah, tinkerbell, but it IS insane to ignore that Rudy Giuliani had begun having the rubble removed THAT night, BEFORE FBI forensic experts could arrive to investigate. WHY couldn’t they arrive sooner? They were all conveniently on the west coast at a seminar.
          Look at who Rudy works for now and who surrounds little Donny-John.
          Don’t keep exposing your ignorance on this topic. You’re a pabulum fed idiot.

      • stephen briskey says:

        He is a handy gaslighter you have to admit.

    • poetinapaperbag says:

      You are some special type of arsehole mate. All those people died that day, and subsequently from that con job.. and your amorality is playing its pissant part in the great murderous lie. What the fuck could be your motivation for such acts. You are a shitman.

      • pomeroo says:

        Your beloved jihadists murdered three thousand people and hate-filled fools like you want to absolve them of all wrongdoing.

        • LaoShur says:

          You’re a zionist jew, your words prove that. Go murder some people when they aren’t prepared. It’s the ONLY thing you’re good at.

        • Buck Jackson says:

          Having read the Koran, I’m hardly a fan of Islam, but the facts are this nation has been engaged in the killing of innocent people.
          BTW, did you see the photo of that steel beam curled up like a ribbon in the Bankers Trust Building?
          And do tell us why WTC 7 collapsed.

  31. Urban Moving says:

    thats all false nano thermitic material was found in the dust the explosives used were high grade super military technology expensive shit his lies about that are thoroughly discredited by a shit ton of evidence….conventional explosives were used in conjunction with something else…hidden coming from the basement timed with the end of the demolition

    • Thomas Potter says:

      Who activated Ronald Wieck (pomeroo)?

      • pomeroo says:

        I understand your concern about who “activated” me. When you’re peddling fantastic lies with no basis in reality, it is critically important that all rationalists be shut down.

        • Thomas Potter says:

          Thank you Ronald Wieck for assisting the powers-that-be in the cover-up of classified technology that turned two quarter mile high buildings into dust in less than 10 seconds each. Too bad there isn’t some trophy, plaque, or award that could be presented to you for your efforts.

          Richard Gage – David Ray Griffin – Steven Jones

          As everyone knows, 9/11 has been the justification and starting point for all manner of destruction, loss, crime, and horror. Without 9/11, there would have been no “Patriot Act,” no abuse of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and stripping away of privacy rights, no Military Commissions Act of 2006 with its setting aside of Habeas Corpus, no implementation of Northcom and deployment of our own military forces on domestic American soil (for use against who, you might ask?), and no trashing of the Bill of Rights and Constitutional guarantees, no programmatic and precedent-setting weakening and eliminating of rights and guarantees so that the very concepts of “citizenship” and “freedom” have been emptied out to the point where setting up concentration camps inside the U.S. is now legal and not a one of us would have any recourse whatsoever if it were decided that we should be thrown into a cell in one of them and forgotten forever.

          Without 9/11, there would never have been any fake and opportunistic “Global War on Terror,” would never have been Guantanamo as we know it now, never have been official programs of torture or fake demonizing of Islam in order to justify wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Somalia, or to justify overt plans for the murder of U.S. citizens living in places like, say, Yemen. There’s more, much more. The complete list of atrocities, crimes, and inhumanities triggered by or justified by 9/11 could fill whole chapters, even books. By using 9/11 as propaganda—by using it as trigger, excuse, justification, or catalyst—the U.S. has betrayed itself, its principles, and its people, and has made itself the world’s most dangerous enemy of all mankind and also of Earth herself.

          In undertaking a “forensic study of the evidence” left behind after the 9/11 disaster, if that study is to be scientifically valid, the researcher must analyze and study not some of the available evidence, not most of the available evidence, but all of the available evidence.

          To my knowledge, no one other than Dr. Wood has done this. She alone has persisted unflaggingly in her study of all available concrete, empirical evidence, has assiduously avoided any and all argument about 9/11 that may be based on politics, desire, belief, emotion, or preset theory but instead has stuck indefatigably, solely—and, I must say, courageously—with the gathering of and the forensic analysis of all the evidence left behind after the 9/11 events.

          No wonder it has taken Dr. Wood a considerable time to complete her enormous task of, first, finding and gathering every last shred of available evidence, then of organizing her findings, and after that preparing the entirety in book form—in a volume of 500 pages that contains not just the exhaustive primary text itself but many, many hundreds of photographs, maps, drawings, graphs, charts, illustrations, explanatory passages, not to mention powerfully relevant—and revelatory—historical scientific background material (chapter 17, “the Tesla-Hutchison effect”) and even a “Glossary and Supplemental Information” section that includes, among much else, the terms Dr. Wood has invented or adapted in order to describe in as connotation-free a way as possible the unusual and unfamiliar phenomena she has observed—words like “Cheetos,” “Donuts,” “Lather,” “Fuzzballs,” “Sillystring,” “Toasted Cars,” “Weird Fires”—but that also includes highly technical plates and charts such as “Melting and Boiling Temperatures for Selected Elements” and “Tritium Values,” these being relevant to Dr. Wood’s discussion of the molecular dissociation of materials that, as she proves, took place during the apparently chaotic but in actuality diabolically precise destruction that took place on 9/11.

          What emerges, for the reader, from all of this? What emerges is a lucid, clear, riveting, thorough, spell-binding, page-turning, eye-opening description and analysis of that terrible day —Dr. Wood has referred to it as the “new Hiroshima”—when the fearsomely destructive power of directed-energy in weaponized form was demonstrated to the world, and when, at the same time and however bitterly and ironically, the liberating promise of free energy as a means by which both Earth and all humanity might be saved from certain destruction was also demonstrated for everyone in the world to see.

          And just what, then, will readers find upon buying, opening, and reading WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? They will find an immensely informative, engaging, detailed, thorough, and humane portrayal of the events of 9/11. They will find the telling of a calamitous, hideous, and horrifying story that, thanks to the clear eye and conscientious mind (and enormous heart) of the teller, is made a testament of homage to all those who suffered and died while at the same time remaining a scientific and forensic descriptive analysis of what actually happened that day: That day when directed-energy weaponry was brought to bear on the World Trade Center buildings, destroying them completely while at the same time leaving almost no rubble, producing no high temperatures of the kind conventionally associated with explosives on the one hand or molten materials on the other, and leaving behind a surreal aftermath of tumbled and overturned firetrucks, scorched cars, missing engine blocks, hundreds of thousands of sheets of unburned office paper floating down to rest, still unburned, amidst flames that have little or no heat of the kind that is produced by oxidization, and an absence of the seismic shock that would be expected from “collapse” at free-fall speed of buildings weighing many hundreds of thousands of tons, including the North Tower, South Tower, World Trade Center Seven, and other WTC buildings that underwent destruction.

          In the story of 9/11 as told by Dr. Wood, everything is observed, analyzed, and evaluated for exactly what it is, and therefore almost nothing is the way we have been told it was. Readers will find for themselves Dr. Wood’s proof that the extremely minimal amount of rubble (the hurried shipping of mass amounts of steel to China is a falsehood and red herring) left behind after the disappearance of the towers indicates that the vast tonnage of these enormous buildings never did reach the ground but instead, through a process of molecular dissociation (Glossary: “Molecules separate or even repel each other”), the buildings’ mass was turned to dust in a shorter time than would have been required for that same mass, in solid form, to have reached earth.

          The seismic evidence, fastidiously laid out for the reader in prose, charts, graphs, and maps, shows the same reality: Even were WTC1 and WTC2 actually to have “collapsed” at free-fall speed (a speed that physics proves unattainable but that’s used by Dr. Wood for argument’s sake), they would have required a minimum of ten seconds for that process to be completed, whereas no seismic signal from weight hitting the ground exists for more than eight seconds, while in the case of the 47-story WTC7, which disappeared with equivalent speed, there is even less seismic disturbance recorded, bordering on none.

          Dr. Wood is a highly gifted observer of multitudinous varieties of evidence—manifestations of evidence that she looks at for what they are, not for what others may have suggested, said, hinted, or believed they are. Here are the opening five sentences of Dr. Wood’s Introduction:

          “On 9/11, I realized that what was being seen and heard on television was contradictory and appeared to violate the laws of physics. I remember watching the TV in the faculty conference room. The TV kept playing the same film over and over, showing what appeared to be a building unraveling like a sweater. I had never seen a building unravel like a sweater, and I tried to imagine what was going on that might make it look that way. Certainly the time it took the building to go away did not make sense.”

          This is the same independent, thoughtful observer who has studied literally thousands upon thousands of images from 9/11, noticing things that others might miss entirely. On the broad expanse of ground zero, for example, “believed” to have had a lake of molten steel underneath it, Dr. Wood notices rubber hoses lying around, and puddles of water, the hoses not melting, the water not boiling or even steaming. Workers are seen walking around on this same expanse —and they are not being cooked like fricassees.

          Again and again, Dr. Wood looks at images and finds in them revelatory and notable details. In “Weird Fires” (Chapter 13), most of us see flaming vehicles, but Dr. Wood notices, just above the “fire,” a tree with green leaves that are unburnt, unaffected, unscorched, and unseared, another indication that this “fire” or these “flames” were without high heat. In “Toasted Cars” (Chapter 11), most of us see only the dreadfully scorched interior of an automobile, but Dr. Wood notices the un-“burnt” window-trim. Or most of us see only the “toasted interior of car 2723,” not noticing the curious fact of the many small circular holes that have been created in the metal floor of the car, almost like holes caused by birdshot, but similar in shape to the curiously circular holes in the broken window-glass of buildings across the street from WTC1 and WTC2.

          9/11 Holding the Truth

          [The truth about what happened to the World Trade Center on 11 September 2001 was discovered by Dr Judy Wood, through careful research between 2001 and 2008. The author of this book, Andrew Johnson, had a “good view” of how later parts of Dr Wood’s research “came together.” Not only that, he was also involved in activities, correspondence and research which illustrated that this truth was being deliberately covered up. This book is a companion and follow-up volume to “9/11 Finding The Truth” – and documents ongoing (and successful) efforts to keep the truth out of the reach of most of the population.

          Evidence in this book, gathered over a period of 12 years, shows that the cover up is “micro-managed,” internationally and even globally. The book names people who are involved in the cover up. It illustrates how they often stick to “talking points” and seem to have certain patterns of behavior. It attempts to illustrate how difficult it is to prevent the truth from being marginalized, attacked and “muddled up.” Additionally, other evidence pertaining to the events of 9/11 is studied in an attempt to show the vast implications of what is now known. The book aims to open the reader’s mind to the power of the group or groups that perpetrated this enormous deception. At the same time, it is shown that the secrets revealed contain the knowledge for positively transforming the world we live in.”]

    • pomeroo says:

      Stop the lies! The frauds Jones and Harrit found primer paint , as proved by subsequent studies. The two charlatans have steadfastly refused to share their samples with independent labs.

    • pomeroo says:

      The frauds Jones and Harrit found primer paint. There is a reason why for nine years they have refused to share their samples with independent labs.

      No demolition professionals take the ravings of the twoof cult seriously because explosives leave behind physical evidence–detonator cord, blasting caps, and chemical residues on structural steel–that was found nowhere in the WTC complex.

  32. pomeroo says:

    No steel turned to dust. Your grainy video does not show the magic you cling to.

  33. pomeroo says:

    No steel turned to dust. ALL the structural steel, roughly 250,000 tons, lay on the ground for months as it was gradually removed to Fresh Kills and other holding centers.

    No video shows steel being magically transformed to dust. There is no steel being “dustified” in your grainy clip, as we can all see.

    No dust studies detected steel in the samples. The dust was overwhelming concrete, gypsum, and glass.

    When you invent an insane fiction about steel turning to dust, the indisputable FACT that the structural steel all fell to the ground makes you either a lunatic or a liar peddling a really crazy falsehood.

  34. pomeroo says:

    The deranged liars who cling to Judy Wood’s fantastic gibberish humiliate themselves in the service of an evil cause. No amount of demented falsehoods can erase the reality of the 1.5 MILLION TONS of rubble and debris that took NINE MOTHS to remove. Showing a spire disappear behind a cloud of concrete and gypsum dust will never trick sane people into thinking that the spire itself was “dustified” by a magic beam weapon. After all, the spire can be viewed in a museum dedicated to preserving artifacts from that terrible day.

    The dust studies showed NO steel in the samples.

    • John says:

      NINE MOTHS? Must be pretty large moths! Your derision of Judy Woods appears to be quite infantile and vitriolic. Sure, disagree if you wish. But to carry on like you have is so manipulative and invalidating. “…deranged liars…?” “…fantastic gibberish…?” “…humiliate themselves…?” Really? Your words actually serve to humiliate yourself! The rubble you speak of – my understanding is that there was no rubble. I believe that is part of her assertion that an energy weapon was involved. And I believe it doesn’t operate as a magic beam. I have only recently come across her interesting presentation. I feel that, as so much time and thought has gone into what she is willing to share, it would be respectful and prudent to examine and ponder her information. I’ve taken the time (ho hum) to read your contributions. None of them are constructive. Or even informative, You. Sir, are a totally vindictive and narrow minded cunt.

  35. Darrell says:

    It’s amazing that so few people talk about the simple obvious fact that thin aluminum planes don’t penetrate thick concrete and steel like a hot knife thru butter, they bounce off in lots of pieces.

    • pomeroo says:

      What is amazing is that people still try to pretend that a 130-ton plane moving roughly 500 mph won’t slice right through quarter-inch steel and glass windows.

      You are too lazy to read the MIT paper on the crash physics, but critical thinking will lead
      you in the right direction. The plane cannot crash against the façade; it is IMPOSSIBLE. It enters the building and gets chewed to bits by the floor trusses and the forest of columns.

      • Urban Moving says:

        to penetrate steel unsloped in terms of armor you need a high velocity harder than steel tip projectile….WW2 tank battles attest to this the WTC steel was thicker with concrete on the outside…. the claim of kinetic energy penetrating thick steel is also retarded…the El Al Crash and the B-25 crash into Empire Satte disprove that…it would have impaled itself and been demolished on the outside echleon factor and engine pounding in crushing local areas or bouncing around also NO WAKE VORTEX

        • pomeroo says:

          You continue to lie although the evidence flatly contradicts you, You can pretend that the plane hit a solid bunker, but reality is a bitch. A 130-ton aircraft moving 500 mph impacted glass windows and quarter-inch steel. It sliced right through, as the laws of physics insist.

          You can’t read the MIT paper on the crash physics, but that is entirely YOUR problem.

      • bjackson says:

        One problem. No commercial aircraft in existence go travel at 550 mph – unless it is in a nose down position with full power, below 10,000 AGL.
        As the air is so thick at the Towers height, it would be shedding parts off the flaps and tail. Even the doors over the landing gear would be ripped off.

    • William K Corbett says:

      And they DON’T leave airplane shaped holes, unless Wile Coyote is flying them.

      • pomeroo says:

        You deranged fantasy that a plane slicing through the facade of a building would not leave an entry hole indicating its dimensions and shape is comic gold.

        What can you people possibly be thinking?

    • Buck Jackson says:

      And that’s what all my professional pilot buddies say. The engines, maybe the landing gear, but everything else would have been in a pile – below the point of impact. Look at the wreckage from 1945 when a B-25 bomber hit the Empire State Building.

      • pomeroo says:

        No steel magically turned to dust. ALL the structural steel was found on the ground. Your video shows the spire, which can be seen in pieces at various museums, disappearing behind a cloud of dust.

        Planes weighing 130 tons and moving over 500 mph cannot possibly “bounce off” quarter-inch steel and glass windows.

        • Thomas Potter says:

          You are correct Mr. Wieck. WTC steel did not magically turn into dust. It was DELIBERATELY turned into dust with classified technology that you continue to cover up.

          Click to access ADA476320.pdf

          The “rubble pile” from WTC1 is essentially non-existent. In the photo above an ambulance is parked at ground level in front of WTC1. WTC6, which had been an eight-story building, towers over the remains of WTC1. So it’s obvious Mr. Wieck that all the structural steel was NOT found on the ground.

        • pomeroo says:

          Your desperate bleat that your deranged goddess’s fantasy accords even slightly with reality is refuted by the massive rubble piles at Ground Zero. We New Yorkers SAW the rubble hills standing 60-70 feet above the ground. We watched workers on the piles toiling 24/7 for NINE MONTHS to remove the 250,000 TONS of structural steel that lay on the ground.

          You cannot process information so you can never hope to understand the source of your mad goddess’s massive blunder. She and her zombies cannot understand why compressing a structure that is 95% air produces rubble hills 5-6% of the building’s original height.

          Judy’s Dustifyin’ Death Ray of Doom is purely imaginary. No power source for her futuristic comic book weapon is conceivable, as physicists have shown.

          The magic super-weapon can turn structural steel into dust, but it can do little more to the much thinner of a car than scorch the paint.

          Science and evidence mean nothing to you because you are flogging an agenda-driven lie.

        • Buck Jackson says:

          One of the items Dr. Woods book points out is a vehicle, covered with rust on 9-11. Yet, in the background we see Tower 7 still standing. So how did a vehicle get burned, then covered with rust in the few hours between the so called plane(s) attack and five thirty or so?
          I used to live on the California coast and helped a buddy sand down cars for restoration. It would take days before any rust would appear. Can you explain that?
          P.S. Why did Tower 7 fall?

        • Thomas Potter says:

          Then how did the ambulance get on top of the 70 foot rubble pile Mr. Wieck? Did Harry Potter use his magic wand and levitate it there??? LOL

          On the afternoon of 9/11/01 the “rubble pile” left from WTC1 is essentially non-existent. WTC7 can be seen in the distance, revealing the photo was taken before 5:20 PM that day.

        • pomeroo says:

          It is embarrassing to be asked such questions. The rubble hills where buildings once stood were piled high with structural steel and debris. The entire area of the WTC complex was strewn with debris, but the ground was flat. You still have trouble with the simple concept that led the deranged Judy to embark on her mad romp. The towers were 95% air by volume. When compressed, the rubble hills they produced stood 60-70 feet high.

        • Thomas Potter says:

          How regrettable that you were so embarrassed Mr. Wieck. Rather than answer the question you simply deflected it. How did the ambulance get on top of the 70 foot rubble pile? Did EMT Wizards fly it there”?

          The remains of WTC2 are in the foreground. Immediately behind WTC2 is where WTC3 (Marriott Hotel) once stood. Where did it go? In the background (upper-left) the World Financial Center (WFC) buildings have blown-out windows and other damage. The remains of WTC6, an 8-story building, (upper-right) towers over the remains of WTC1. This photo is dated 9-13-2001, the sun is from the east (right side of picture), so it appears this was taken on the morning of 9/13. While it has been reported that much of the steel was removed from the site, sold to China, and loaded onto barges, and sent to China to be melted down, the steel could not have been removed this fast. So, if it was not shipped to China overnight, where did the steel go? Most of it was not on the ground, initially; so it had to have been suspended in the air Mr. Wieck!

        • pomeroo says:

          All the structural steel was found on the ground. Your mad bleat about the steel not being on the ground immediately after the buildings fell is beyond insane.

  36. Robert E. Salt says:

    There were 57 steel columns between the corners of the World Trade Center with only 14 inches between them; that’s how narrow the windows were. An aluminum plane flies through the steel building as though it was a cloud leaving a hole too small for the plane to enter. We know it really happened because the fake news and well-placed actors told us so. lol

    • Steel columns were 14 inches square on one meter centers. So round up to 40″ to approximate 39.37″ meter width and subtract 7″ for both columns then windows were approximately 26″ wide.

        • Urban Moving says:

          “MIT” lol thats a jewy mossad bunch of liars if I ever heard off you know nothing of facts retarded jew shill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXrnGiIMGLs NASA wake cortex stydy, the Vortex would have been seen in the massive dust and smoke cloud in the air….its not if a plane really was in the air idiot LOW IQ shill it would have lasted at 580mph and 480mph for good minute and been seen in some fashion NONE is…..you are not competent enough to deal with all the excellent information provided

      • Robert E. Salt says:

        I stand corrected. However, the windows were tall and narrow, and there were NO planes. The U.S. dollar is backed with nothing but lies. It’s a house of cards ready to tumble. When it does your savings account and pension will be worthless. Even petroleum is a lie because energy is freer than the air we breathe. The good news is, everything can be rebuilt overnight.

        • pomeroo says:

          You responded to inconvenient facts with gibberish. If such buffoonery makes you happy, nothing will open your eyes.

  37. roadofcobras says:

    J. Wood:”…. so that’s what happens when you use assumptions….”

    So why assume, without verifying, that any part of any one of the 9/11 “plane into building” video sequences is genuine?

    Any genuine forensic scientist would NEVER do that, and yet Ms Wood, once again,along with 99.9% of the rest “9/11 Truth” community continually, and wrongly, make that procedurally wrong assumption!

    Why? Well either they are incredibly incompetent /ignorant individuals with no knowledge of basic, fundamental scientific investigative procedures and with no actual knowledge/experience with the forensic analysis of video or photographic “evidence”, or, they consistently and deliberately avoid employing basic fundamental scientific investigative forensic procedures because they are being paid to so do.

    For example , even a cursory, [i.e. not “frame by frame” ] video analysis of the flight path that Fl. 175 allegedly took reveals that in one CBS sequence it can be observed for the last 7 seconds to “dive-bomb” down before flattening out and hitting WTC2, whereas in another video, for the same last 7 seconds, its flight path is almost entirely horizontal, no “dive-bomb” path to be seen. Which , logically leads to the conclusion that either 1, or both of these sequences are entirely fraudulent, and NOT that the sequences are real and depict a holographic plane image. For even holograms, [assuming that this was even possible], cannot be in two places at the same time.

    • When are you going to refute Richard D. Hall’s 3D analysis proving all the videos with sufficient footage (approx. 26) of the WTC2 hit have the same flight path? No one to my knowledge has accomplished that. https://www.richplanet.net/richp_genre.php?ref=177&part=1&gen=3

    • There were five key events on 9/11 when the Earth’s magnetic field fluctuated. They were when each plane shaped cookie cutout hole appeared and when the molecular disassociation began for WTC building one, two, and later in the day, building number seven. This evidence is covered in Chapter 19, pages 413 to 430 in WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?

    • William K Corbett says:


      • pomeroo says:

        Let’s make sure we understand: your imaginary super-villains launched an attack on the north tower of the WTC using futuristic technology and blamed the airplane-shaped entry hole on a real plane. The air traffic controllers that monitored AA11 from Logan to the crash site in lower Manhattan are, of course, part of the Impossibly Vast Conspiracy. Next, having made sure that every pair of eyes in Manhattan and across the rivers in Brooklyn Heights and Northern New Jersey would be riveted on the burning north tower, they claimed that a second plane hit the south tower, with the phantom plane leaving another plane-shaped entry hole. Although no one actually would see UA 175, also monitored from Logan to the WTC complex, countless people would claim to be witnesses to the crash. In defiance of the laws of probability, absolutely NO ONE would write a letter-to-the-editor insisting that there was no plane.

        In other words, the imaginary super-villains made sure to assemble the biggest group of onlookers possible in order to claim a plane crash that NOBODY would see.

        Although sane people laugh at your zany cult, we must admit that the fantasy you cling to is one helluva plan!


  38. pomeroo’s remark is very telling…The oil industry (leaded gas), tobacco industry (lung cancer), and more recently the NFL (chronic traumatic encephalopathy), have all spent millions and millions of dollars marginalizing scientific findings and the scientists that find them by way of “public relations” which is another word for propaganda. Lead in the food chain, carcinogens in the air, and brain damaged football players are all good for you, right? LOL

    There is a lot of deception, distraction, and diversion going on, both intentional and otherwise, leading people to climb on to popular “theories” or “band wagons”. Truth is not established by popularity, although agenda-driven political campaigns are. So we need to establish a better way to sort through the information we find by improving our problem-solving skills.

    Remember how a cover-up works. Get people to theorize and speculate about an imagined problem, then get them to argue their opinions with others. Everyone will be arguing about opinions of speculations of theories of opinions of guesswork and they’ll just go round and round and round and get nowhere. Meanwhile, they’ve been diverted away from looking at the real problem. Pretty slick, isn’t it? It is amazingly easy to keep a cover up in place! The only way out of that vicious cycle is to deal with the facts and only the facts (empirical evidence) e.g. thermite doesn’t do what “it” was that was done. A cover-up prey’s on the gullibility of the audience. In the near future, our survival may depend on our ability to identify what is real.

    Those who control the energy control the people. But those who control their perception control everything.

    • pomeroo says:

      There are many problems with the mad fantasies concocted by the hopelessly brain-damaged Judy Wood. It is always best to start with her signature claim that most of the structural steel of the twin towers was magically transformed to dust by an imaginary beam for which no energy source is conceivable. We can argue about sheer nonsense, but at some point a sane person will point to the brute fact (William James’s term) that no steel turned to dust. ALL the structural steel lay on the ground and was removed to Fresh kills and other holding centers over a period of nine months.

      • The Revelation of Method is essentially when you show your victim what you have done and can do to them and they are so traumatized already that they will do nothing to stop you or even consciously acknowledge it.

        Is there a Revelation of Method of the 9/11/2001 attacks? Indeed there is and very few of you will even seriously consider it and then only a brief time if you do. The perpetrators behind the morons who flew the planes into the buildings have revealed what they did to the World Trade Center towers. It’s illustrated in detail in a little known book titled Where Did The Towers Go? by Judy Wood, PhD. Look at that book and ignore the noise of derision you might hear about the author and the book’s contents.


        • steve briskey says:

          Yeah!…..Thanks for wasting 10 min of my life with that millennium moon rocks shite….shee’sh!

      • Urban Moving says:

        Pomeroo you clearly are retard

  39. David West says:

    Come on mOrgan, you KNOW there were no planes. You know all about Gerard Holmgren’s absolute proof that these planes did not take off that day. Why not just state that fact when you know it is true. see https://sites.google.com/site/humanevolution2008/clearing-out-1/no-planes-on-911

    • Of course I KNOW there were no 9/11 plane crashes (duh!), and Gerard certainly deserves credit for discovering AA 11 and AA 77 never officially flew on 9/11 but UA 175 and UA 93 officially did fly though, among other proofs that the official narrative is wholly bogus, ‘pilots for 9/11 truth’ found in its analysis of ACARS data that both aircraft were well west of the sites (Pentagon and Shanksville) where they allegedly crashed. With all my work available on this blog exposing the 9/11 plane lie I don’t quite understand your hostility to my posting this latest discovery about the crash of flight 587 two months after 9/11 which proves, once again but decisively, the fragility of big commercial airliners, an Airbus A300 as I recall, with 260 aboard. Apparently my brevity was ‘at fault.’

  40. pomeroo says:

    The cowardly fraud Morgan Reynolds lauds the ravings of the hopelessly brain-damaged Judy Wood. Birds of a feather, etc.

    • The usual from pomeroo: Ad hominem from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      “Personal attack” redirects here. For the policy on Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:No personal attacks.

      Paul Graham’s Hierarchy of Disagreement lists ad hominem as the second lowest type of argument in a disagreement.
      Ad hominem (Latin for “to the man” or “to the person”[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.[2] The terms ad mulierem[3] and ad feminam[4] have been used when the person receiving the criticism is a woman.

      However, its original meaning was an argument “calculated to appeal to the person addressed more than to impartial reason”.[5]

      Fallacious ad hominem reasoning is categorized as an informal fallacy,[6][7][8] more precisely as a genetic fallacy, a subcategory of fallacies of irrelevance.

      • pomeroo says:

        Be sure to explain the details of the “plan” devised by your imaginary super-villains.

        First, they announced that a jet airliner had crashed into the north tower. Then, after making sure that EVERY eye in Manhattan and across the East and Hudson rivers would be riveted on the burning tower, they announced that another plane had hit the south tower–a plane that they understood NO ONE would see.

        Amazingly, although tens of thousands of people were watching the spectacle unfold at the WTC complex, NOBODY wrote a letter-to-the-editor or phoned a talk radio show to complain that there was no plane.

        Now, THAT is one helluva plan!

        You are one crazy crackpot.

        • Why does Ronald Wieck assist in the cover-up of those who turned the WTC into dust in mid-air never hitting the ground? A fallacy is an error in reasoning. This differs from a factual error, which is simply being wrong about the facts. To be more specific, a fallacy is an “argument” in which the premises given for the conclusion do not provide the needed degree of support. Decredentializing a highly qualified expert like Dr. Wood by appealing to spite, ridicule, or willful ignorance does nothing to support a valid argument. Also, an opinion and an Internet connection does not qualify someone as an expert in forensic engineering and science, nor nuclear physics, nor structural engineering, nor materials engineering science, nor engineering mechanics (applied physics). The empirical research Dr. Wood performed is a way of gaining knowledge by means of direct and indirect observation or experience, not by performing experiments. Steven Jones [Journal Of Nine Eleven Studies or J.O.N.E.S.] and Greg Jenkins used to ridicule Dr. Wood by claiming that it would take more than five times the world’s energy to destroy the WTC towers. Does that mean their thermite came from off planet or “outer space”? LOL What experiments would Dr. Wood perform? What are the experiments for, to prove the buildings are still there or if the buildings are gone? Why not just look? No assumptions needed with empirical evidence! A forensic scientific investigation involves the collection and analysis of ALL of the evidence. Even though A&E911truth appeals to authority and popularity, a controlled group is not synonymous with evidence.

          Those who want to cover up the evidence of what happen often falsely claim that Dr. Wood is talking about a specific weapon and a specific location of it (e.g. laser beam from outer space, or “spacebeams”). This disinformation campaign was initiated by Steven Jones on 11/11/2006 in a presentation he gave at the University of California, Berkeley [available here at timestamp 1:53:47

          https://archive.org/details/liftingthefog_2006_11_11_session2 ],

          telling his audience that “Judy Woods (Dr. Wood) says it’s a laser or maser from space” while showing how difficult it is to hold his hand like a beam from space. Not only does Dr. Wood NOT SAY THAT, she actually RULES THAT OUT. The mechanism of destruction of a laser beam would be from heat and produce a bright and blinding light. But we know the buildings were not cooked to death. The term Directed Energy is used because energy is directed to do something different then it normally does and it is directed to do this within a certain geographic zone. [As a mental example, think of directing the binding energy of matter to repel instead of attract. A solid object would turn to atomic-sized dust. Direct this to happen within the WTC complex and not across the street.]

          At the end of Chapter 20 in Dr. Wood’s book, she explains why playing “name the weapon” game is counterproductive. Name dropping trendy terms is not synonymous with understanding. The easiest example is HAARP. The full capabilities are classified. But people often name-drop the trendy term to APPEAR to know something. A tongue-in-cheek definition of HAARP stands for High Amplitude Advancement of Real Propaganda. They are just substituting “HAARP” for “Bin Laden.”

          In Dr. Wood’s book, the closest she comes to “naming a weapon” is merely describing what it creates: magnetic-electrogravitic-nuclear reactions (page 365). But as soon as someone starts talking about a name, people will stop looking at the evidence which is another form of a cover up.

          “The question is where is all the rubble? Did it all turn to dust?” ― Peter Jennings (July 29, 1938 – August 7, 2005) Canadian-American journalist and news anchor

        • Incidentally, Allen Forrest recently wrote to me, saying in part:

          Great article about Dr. Wood and no planes.

          I did a graphic narrative called According To Mae: 9/11 – Planes? Collapse? which included Wood’s work and I mentioned the no planes as well.


          Morgan, you may also find these related graphic narratives of interest–

          According To Mae: Since 9/11

          According To Mae: The Kathryn Casey Story



        • pomeroo says:

          The insane claim that the 1.5 MILLION TONS of rubble and debris that took 1,000 workers toiling 24/7 on the hills NINE MONTHS to remove is based on the brain-damaged Judy Wood’s inability to comprehend, well, anything.

          You can NEVER hope to con the thousands of New Yorkers who walked by the rubble hills every day into thinking that they were hallucinating.

          What Judy (and the airhead Peter Jennings) didn’t grasp is that skyscrapers are mostly air by volume. Typically, a high rise building is 88-90% air. Because of their unique tubular designs, the twin towers were almost 95% air by volume. When a 1,300-ft. tall building is compressed in a collapse, the resulting rubble pile will be 65-70 ft. high–EXACTLY the height of the rubble hills that replaced the towers.

          When you stand up in the room you currently occupy and wave your arms, you become aware of the presence of AIR. If the room measures ten feet from floor to ceiling, it measures merely a few inches when compressed. What is missing is the AIR.

    • Adnane says:

      @pomeroo there you go. You can always try do denigrate people but facts are facts! Science and evidence won’t wait for you, unfortunately. As french people say: “Fortunately the ridicule doesn’t kill”

      • pomeroo says:

        Yes, what William James called “brute facts” constitute the boulder in the road for liars, charlatans, and crackpots.

        When a someone pretends that the building collapses at the WTC complex left behind no rubble and debris, we KNOW with certainty that he is either insane or lying. When someone pretends that a plane seen by tens of thousands of onlookers didn’t exist, we KNOW with certainty that he is either insane or lying (or both).

        Facts matter.

        • “There was no thermite, thermate, or sooperdoopernanothermite anywhere in the WTC complex on 9/11. The lies of the twoof movement have been exposed.” -Ronald Wieck 4/28/11


          Thank you Mr. Wieck for agreeing with Dr. Judy Wood and exposing this cover-up of what really happened on 9/11. There is no evidence supporting Richard Gage and his AE911Trutherd promotion of a kinetic energy destruction of the WTC complex by the use of any form of thermite. Thermite is a welding material, not an explosive. A thermitic reaction produces a great deal of heat and light. In the few seconds that it took the towers to fall, people viewing the event would have been blinded by the light!

          This subject is covered in Chapter 7, section D, pages 122 to 125 of WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? by Dr. Judy Wood

          Thermite is a non-starter to account for phenomena like these:

          1. Disintegration of 99% of concrete into ultra-fine dust. (50% of particles under 100 microns in samples from three locations, Dr. Thomas Cahill and his group measured concentrations of particles in ranges from 0.09 to 2.5 microns. Red blood cells have an approximate thickness of 2-3 microns and a diameter of around 7.0 microns.)

          2. Superheated steels ablating?vaporizing continuously as they fall?as seen in video clips of the towers collapsing. This requires uniform temperatures roughly twice that of thermate. Vaporize implies high heat. “Dustification” occurred at or near ambient temperatures.

          3. The North Tower spire stood for 20-30 seconds, dissolved, went down, and turned to steel dust.



        • Thomas Potter says:

          Why is little Ronny having a temper tantrum if Dr. Wood isn’t correct about the conclusion she makes from the EVIDENCE that cannot be disputed? Because it’s a distraction to cover up the EVIDENCE. Name calling and disparaging the reputation of someone does little (Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hut me.), but it does reflect on the character of the person performing those actions. Displaying authoritarian contempt for others’ feelings as well as rage and abuse are classic behaviors of a sociopath.


        • pomeroo says:

          You rave mindlessly about “evidence” when the deranged woman you worship has absolutely none.

          In your helplessness, you bleat that a superior is having a temper tantrum when he crushes the zany lies you peddle with hard facts.

          Your goddess’s signature claim is that a magic energy beam with no conceivable power source transformed structural steel to dust. The madness crashes headlong into reality when the relevant facts are produced:

          NO steel turned to dust.
          ALL the structural steel was found on the ground.
          Dust studies showed that the dust consisted overwhelmingly of pulverized concrete, gypsum wallboard, glass, and traces of other building materials. There was NO steel in the dust.

          You continue to beclown yourself by clinging to a fantasy, impervious to the evidence that destroys it.

        • Thomas Potter says:

          Again little Ronny demonstrates his sociopathic behavior. Understanding cannot be forced on someone who chooses to be ignorant. There are none so blind as those who will not see.


        • stephen briskey says:

          The pomeroos’ lies and risible depositions only serve to elicit and strengthen more of the truths and evidence of Dr Woods in this forum.. so much so that one might be forgiven for suspecting him a Manchurian Candidate .; -p

        • pomeroo says:

          You morons have to be pulling my leg. Do you think hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers imagined the rubble hills they walked past for moths?

          How can you hope to trick smarter, saner people with your deranged lies?

          Can you look at the photos of the debris fields? What do you think you are seeing??????

        • stephen briskey says:

          The EMR Van pomeroo?….the EMR Van?… Does elenchus scare and defeat you pomerroo? How did the EMR Van get atop your “mountain of steel” pomeroo? It’s a simple question. Did the operators drive it up there after the demolition? Did the Jihadis hijack and it and fly it there? Did your magical space beam transport it there ? How pomerroo?….we the mentally ill can’t fathom it pomeroo…save us!

        • pomeroo says:

          Yes, you are breathtakingly stupid, but what is worse is the pride you take in your intractable ignorance. No van was ever on the top of one of the rubble hills. Given that the hills consisted of twisted steel the notion of magically driving a vehicle to the top of one would appeal only to a mental defective. Your lack of intellectual curiosity prevents you from looking at site maps showing the locations and heights of the various hills. The debris field spread put over fifteen acres. There were various trucks and EMT vans inside the field, but none were on tops of hills.

          There is a reason why you lunatics can’t simply LOOK at photos of the rubble.

        • stephen briskey says:

          Your evidence starts to deconstruct itself in your own self inflicted cross-examination pomeroo..If the van were not driven or placed on top of the mountains (sic.) of rubble (that should have been where the van was parked in proximity to your vertical collapse)…. then why was the van not impacted by anything more substantial than micro dust?

        • pomeroo says:

          Your mental illness is on display. You worship a lunatic who pretends that a magic beam weapon transformed the structural steel to dust. No matter what zany lies you invent, you can NEVER get past reality: ALL the steel was on the ground after the towers collapsed. A thousand men toiling on the rubble hills for NINE MONTHS removed roughly 1.5 MILLION tons of debris to Fresh Kills and other holding centers.

          There is no way to slip your deranged fantasies past that incontrovertible fact.

        • stephen briskey says:

          How did the EMR people get their dust-covered van on to the top of your mountains of ALL the steel from the wreckage pomeroo? …elenchus is your undoing pomeroo..which is why you are afraid to play.

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